Hi Dimitri,

First of all thanks for the feedback.
Some explanations below...

On 12/8/06, Dimitris Glezos < dimitris@glezos.com> wrote:

O/H Paulo Santos έγραψε:
> This is a testing environment with the original fedoraproject.org
> <http://fedoraproject.org> data from 8th of November 2006. [...]

Hi Paulo,

first of all, great job with the upgrade. Here are some comments:

1. Can we enable the definition syntax (term :: definition)? It's an important
syntax in HTML and used very often throughout the wiki.

Cool, let me check how to enable this and i'll do it. (probably only monday though)

2. We could use the CardMacro feature. But this might need some discussion.

I liked what i saw with CardMacro, but thats just me. You guys are the ones that gonna use it more often, so please discuss it and let me know what you need from my side. I'm here to help you all :)

3. I've noticed that during a page editing the "Preview" buttons are only on
top of the editbox. Is there a switch to enable their presence below the box
too, since there is the place 99% of the users will expect it to be?

About the preview buttons, i have no idea if this is supposed to be like this or not. I'll drop some questions to the guys at #moin, and then i'll give you an answer on this subject.

4. BTW, during a page edit subimt, the following error occured:

    Status of sending notification mails:
    [en] ThomasChung, ThorstenLeemhuis, RahulSundaram, PatrickBarnes:
{u'tchung@fedoraproject.org': (554, ': Recipient address rejected: Relay access
denied'), u'nman64@fedoraproject.org': (554, ': Recipient address rejected:
Relay access denied'), u'sundaram@redhat.com': (554, ': Recipient address
rejected: Relay access denied'), u'fedora@leemhuis.info': (554, ': Recipient
address rejected: Relay access denied')}

Right now this is supposed to be like this. Why? simple answer. I have the wiki setup to use the same smtp as in fp.o (duke). Our firewalls dont allow a straight connection to fpserv.fp.o:25 which means no notifications mails. I dont want to setup this correctly, so that everyone on that mailing list don't keep receiving emails about something still on testing. I'm not saying we shouldn't testing this, just stating that i would prefer not to do it right now. Why not leave this to the last few testings...

> Karsten:
> If you guys want to test the new CSS, just let me know where it is and
> i'll add a similar Kindofblue template, and replace the appropriate
> stylesheets for your testing.

The CSS additions that work on top of the current theme; you just need to import
this CSS as well. Here is the current version:

  http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fedora/custom.css

Some further additions are planned in the near future. I would like to work more
on the h1, probably the tables, create some custom stuff that people could use
just by adding the related CSS "class".

Let's do it like this. I'll 'create' a theme called 'newKindofblue' with the new CSS, whenever you want it updated just let me know with the url of the new CSS and i'll update this new theme. You would like this theme to be enforced on the testing wiki ?!

Paulo, thanks for the notices, explanations and all.

My pleasure :)

-d


Paulo

> Once again, thanks all
> Paulo
>
> On 12/5/06, *Karsten Wade* <kwade@redhat.com <mailto:kwade@redhat.com>>
> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 14:06 +0300, John Babich wrote:
>
>     > 1. Is the move back to fedora.redhat.com
>     < http://fedora.redhat.com> a temporary situation for testing?
>
>     Paul explained this fine; it's just a test/sandbox environment.  We are
>     definitely leaving fedora.redhat.com <http://fedora.redhat.com>
>     behind. :)
>
>     > 2. Are we still going with Plone for static pages and MoinMoin wiki
>     > for drafts, etc.?
>
>     This is the way the Documentation Project is going to use Wiki + CMS.
>     However, I fully expect the rest of the project to use the Wiki as a
>     primary location for project-specific documentation, e.g. Packaging/,
>     SELinux/, Extras/, etc.
>
>     However, once we build the tools to easily publish to Plone, we'll see
>     if some folks want to use that. :)
>
>     > By the way, I'm intrigued by the "Render as Docbook" feature.
>     >
>     > 3. Is there a way to generate our valid DocBook XML code with this
>     facility?
>
>     What you see in this Moin Moin instance, ver. 1.5.6, is the code
>     *before* the Google Summer of Code fixes this year.  It actually works
>     well for most cases, but has some bugs and unsupported syntax.  The code
>     that was worked on over this GSoC fixed the bugs and did a number of
>     syntax mappings that we devised.  So, for example, the markup in
>     WikiEditing#Marking_Technical_Terms is rendered in to the XML that we
>     expect it to.
>
>     We are working with the same FI/Websites team to get upgraded to 1.6
>     when it is released, as well as working on getting the GSoC code into
>     that main trunk.  In the meantime, the Render as DocBook in 1.5.6 works
>     good enough for us to use for one-time conversions out of the Wiki,
>     etc.
>
>     - Karsten
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