3:14 p.m.
There is one string that I can't get translated in any language, I am
not able to find the issue.
Look for "and others" in http://fedoraproject.org/uk/get-fedora
The markup looks like others. Any clue ?
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5:10 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 10:14:17PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote:
There is one string that I can't get translated in any language,
I am
not able to find the issue.
Look for "and others" in http://fedoraproject.org/uk/get-fedora
The markup looks like others. Any clue ?
Looks like this commit inadvertently broke the translation:
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=commit;h=15a77199a7e6...
Either this could be reverted, which will fix all the translations of
"and others," but be incorrect case for "Xfce," or the POT/PO could
be
rebuilt, which might introduce more translation changes.
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2:17 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 10:14:17PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote:
> There is one string that I can't get translated in any language, I am
> not able to find the issue.
> Look for "and others" in http://fedoraproject.org/uk/get-fedora
>
> The markup looks like others. Any clue ?
Looks like this commit inadvertently broke the translation:
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=commit;h=15a77199a7e6...
Either this could be reverted, which will fix all the translations of
"and others," but be incorrect case for "Xfce," or the POT/PO could
be
rebuilt, which might introduce more translation changes.
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Yep I remember about this change, git log helped me
but i can't see the difference.. Gonna rebuilt it locally tonight
after the revert, to check if a special character as not been replaced
by an other.
Sure we don't want to revert, Sijis' commit was useful.
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10:07 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 10:14:17PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote:
>> There is one string that I can't get translated in any language, I am
>> not able to find the issue.
>> Look for "and others" in http://fedoraproject.org/uk/get-fedora
>>
>> The markup looks like others. Any clue ?
>
> Looks like this commit inadvertently broke the translation:
>
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=commit;h=15a77199a7e6...
>
> Either this could be reverted, which will fix all the translations of
> "and others," but be incorrect case for "Xfce," or the POT/PO
could be
> rebuilt, which might introduce more translation changes.
>
> --
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Yep I remember about this change, git log helped me
but i can't see the difference.. Gonna rebuilt it locally tonight
after the revert, to check if a special character as not been replaced
by an other.
Sure we don't want to revert, Sijis' commit was useful.
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Yikes, I did break that. The request was basically changing the case of XFCE
to Xfce, as that's what is noted on Xfce's website.
Looks like we just need to update the POT and PO files with the new string.
Unfortunately that just means translators will need to re-translate that
string.
(Note to self: case sensitivity does matter)
Sijis
10:41 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 10:07:41AM -0600, Sijis Aviles wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 10:14:17PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote:
> >> There is one string that I can't get translated in any language, I am
> >> not able to find the issue.
> >> Look for "and others" in http://fedoraproject.org/uk/get-fedora
> >>
> >> The markup looks like others. Any clue ?
> >
> > Looks like this commit inadvertently broke the translation:
> >
>
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=commit;h=15a77199a7e6...
> >
> > Either this could be reverted, which will fix all the translations of
> > "and others," but be incorrect case for "Xfce," or the
POT/PO could be
> > rebuilt, which might introduce more translation changes.
> >
> > --
> > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
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> > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
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> > --
>
> Yep I remember about this change, git log helped me
> but i can't see the difference.. Gonna rebuilt it locally tonight
> after the revert, to check if a special character as not been replaced
> by an other.
> Sure we don't want to revert, Sijis' commit was useful.
>
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Yikes, I did break that. The request was basically changing the case of XFCE
to Xfce, as that's what is noted on Xfce's website.
Looks like we just need to update the POT and PO files with the new string.
Unfortunately that just means translators will need to re-translate that
string.
Actually... anyone with a PO editor could probably take care of this;
I've done similar work for Docs from time to time. There may be other
changes to POT that will happen as well, and I don't know offhand how
you'd update just this one string. If it's possible, that would be
great, and I could fix the PO files in return! If it's not... well, I
could still fix the one string, but translation teams would have to
handle the rest per usual. Let me know what you decide to do and I'll
be happy to help.
(Note to self: case sensitivity does matter)
Yeah, unfortunately this is not something the gettext utilities just
handle!
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11:15 a.m.
>
> Looks like we just need to update the POT and PO files with the new string.
> Unfortunately that just means translators will need to re-translate that
> string.
Argh, if we do a change, we need to commit the new html file AND the
new POT rebuilt? As the pot file is not rebuilt online. I forgot
this... Sorry, now I understand the problem.
So my last commit[1] should also break one string. fedora spin also
need a new POT.
Actually... anyone with a PO editor could probably take care of
this;
I've done similar work for Docs from time to time. There may be other
changes to POT that will happen as well, and I don't know offhand how
you'd update just this one string. If it's possible, that would be
great, and I could fix the PO files in return! If it's not... well, I
could still fix the one string, but translation teams would have to
handle the rest per usual. Let me know what you decide to do and I'll
be happy to help.
No, anyone with an ASCI (utf8) file editor could do this.
I use vim a lot for translating...
In that case, I propose the following process
1) typo correction on html files
2) use sed in all po files to update the original string (only po files)
3) generate the new POT file by making a new build
4) commit html, pot and po files.
Using this, it will correct the word for all language without having
translators to just remove the "fuzzy" tag. They won't have to
download the po file, remove this tag and upload it any more.
But, in the Sijis' commit, by changing XFCE to Xfce I think this
process is not useful because we also want all languages to update
their translations accordingly.
Here we would have to parse all po file to correct this specific word
in a foreign language.
In that case I propose to generate only the new pot file and let
translators to adapt their translations.
[1]
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d75e2d4...
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10:06 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
Argh, if we do a change, we need to commit the new html file AND the
new POT rebuilt? As the pot file is not rebuilt online. I forgot
this... Sorry, now I understand the problem.
Yeah, when updating a string in a file, we should typically update (commit)
the updated .pot file. I personally don't do it all the time as i think its
rude to constantly be changing the .pot file on a translator. I tend to push
the updated po/pot files when there a are several changes and bulk them in
one commit.
But, in the Sijis' commit, by changing XFCE to Xfce I think this
process is not useful because we also want all languages to update
their translations accordingly.
Here we would have to parse all po file to correct this specific word
in a foreign language.
In that case I propose to generate only the new pot file and let
translators to adapt their translations.
Yeah, regenerating the whole thing may be worth it. I'm sure there are other
strings that have been updated but not the pot file.
Alternatively, we could replace this string in the po files
msgid "KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others"
and change XFCE to Xfce and update the fedora-web.pot file.
Doing all that may be too much effort that just updating any and all missing
or updated strings.
Sijis
10:21 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Yeah, when updating a string in a file, we should typically update
(commit)
the updated .pot file. I personally don't do it all the time as i think its
rude to constantly be changing the .pot file on a translator. I tend to push
the updated po/pot files when there a are several changes and bulk them in
one commit.
How to keep track which pot file has to be updated, and when?
About the spins one, I am going to finish translating it in about 2
weeks. I will probably have other typo to correct.
Alternatively, we could replace this string in the po files
msgid "KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others"
and change XFCE to Xfce and update the fedora-web.pot file.
Doing all that may be too much effort that just updating any and all missing
or updated strings.
that was my point 2), isn't it? sed is a tool that can replace strings
in a file.
for example
$ sed -e 's/KDE, XFCE, GNOME, and others/KDE, Xfce, GNOME, and
others/g' -i *.po
will do it.
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