Adding Classroom link to Get Help page

[Sijis Aviles]

I'm looking for feedback on this thought.

I was looking through at the Get Help page
(https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help) and i thought adding a
link/section about the the Fedora Classroom project
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom), would be a
good addition to the page. Not only will it promote the great work
these volunteers are doing in teaching basics and advanced topics but
it is also an alternate form of getting/finding help by learning.

I haven't made an example of what would be added to the page. I just
want to know if people think this is a good or bad idea.

Sijis

[Sijis Aviles]

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Sijis Aviles  wrote:
> I'm looking for feedback on this thought.
>
> I was looking through at the Get Help page
> (https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help) and i thought adding a
> link/section about the the Fedora Classroom project
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom), would be a
> good addition to the page. Not only will it promote the great work
> these volunteers are doing in teaching basics and advanced topics but
> it is also an alternate form of getting/finding help by learning.
>
> I haven't made an example of what would be added to the page. I just
> want to know if people think this is a good or bad idea.
>
> Sijis

So I'm following up on this idea. I'm thinking about adding the
following to the fp.o/get-help page (below "Written Documentation"
section). I'd like to hear some feedback, as I'd like to include this
before website text freeze.

---
+       <h3>${Markup(_('Online Classroom'))}</h3>
+       <p>${Markup(_('The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds
classes to help you better use, understand and manage your Fedora
installation. See the &lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt; page for
+
---

Thanks,

Sijis

[Karsten Wade]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:56:01PM -0600, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> So I'm following up on this idea. I'm thinking about adding the
> following to the fp.o/get-help page (below "Written Documentation"
> section). I'd like to hear some feedback, as I'd like to include this
> before website text freeze.
>   <h3>${Markup(_('Online Classroom'))}</h3>
>   <p>${Markup(_('The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds
>
> classes to help you better use, understand and manage your Fedora
> installation. See the &lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt; page for

+1 to the idea, just a couple of quick adjustments:

* s/See/Refer to/
* s/understand/understand,/
* s/page for/

Like this:

---
+       <h3>${Markup(_('Online Classroom'))}</h3>
+       <p>${Markup(_('The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds
classes to help you better use, understand, and manage your Fedora
installation. Refer to the &lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt;
page.
+
---

(It's not necessary to be able to see in order to use the reference.
This is a common fix in technical writing.  The use of the final comma
before and/or/but in serial lists is really not optional, otherwise it
can change the meaning of sentences.  Well, at least in the more
strict American English.)

Although this is a page about getting (v. giving) help, is it worth
mentioning that the IRC Classroom is also for learning about
participating in and contributing to the Fedora Project?  Or is that
off-topic for the help page? :)

- Karsten

[Sijis Aviles]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Karsten Wade  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:56:01PM -0600, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> > So I'm following up on this idea. I'm thinking about adding the
> > following to the fp.o/get-help page (below "Written Documentation"
> > section). I'd like to hear some feedback, as I'd like to include this
> > before website text freeze.
> > <h3>${Markup(_('Online Classroom'))}</h3>
> > <p>${Markup(_('The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds
> >
> > classes to help you better use, understand and manage your Fedora
> > installation. See the &lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt; page for
>
> +1 to the idea, just a couple of quick adjustments:
> s/See/Refer to/
> s/understand/understand,/
> s/page for/
>
> Like this:
> <h3>${Markup(_('Online Classroom'))}</h3>
> <p>${Markup(_('The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds
>
> classes to help you better use, understand, and manage your Fedora
> installation. Refer to the &lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt;
> page.
>
> (It's not necessary to be able to see in order to use the reference.
> This is a common fix in technical writing.  The use of the final comma
> before and/or/but in serial lists is really not optional, otherwise it
> can change the meaning of sentences.  Well, at least in the more
> strict American English.)
>
> Although this is a page about getting (v. giving) help, is it worth
> mentioning that the IRC Classroom is also for learning about
> participating in and contributing to the Fedora Project?  Or is that
> off-topic for the help page? :)
> Karsten
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Karsten,

Thank you for revising the text. During my paste, i didn't include all
of the text. I'm attaching the complete diff for that page. We could
add that it can teach on how to participate on the Fedora Project..
that's a good idea.

For simplicity, here's the complete text I currently have:

The Fedora IRC Classroom periodically holds classes to help you better
use, understand, and manage your Fedora installation. Refer to the
&lt;a href="%s"&gt;Classroom&lt;/a&gt; page for more information on
upcoming classes, and archives of previous class sessions.

Thanks again for reviewing this.

Sijis