On Tuesday 28 November 2006 19:58, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
O/H Patrick W. Barnes έγραψε:
> My one suggestion would be to keep the original default font size. I've
> not heard any complaints about the font size in the past, and increasing
> it could break some of the less-proper design elements used in the wiki
> and wouldn't allow as much information to fit on any given screen.
The font size is very small and should be increased, this is the conscious
I got from some people. Even if it means we will have less content on a
The content on the page is already more than what it should be: the
paragraphs are very wide in high resolutions and the text is very small
(there is a certain ratio of letters per row that makes a paragraph more
readable but even the newer font size exceeds that).
Don't design to high resolutions.
Design pages that are as generic as possible, but where something must be
specific to a resolution, stick to the range where the majority sits: 800x600
to 1024x768. It may seem callous, but it's not a web designer's job to
accommodate people that use high resolutions beyond their eyesight without
properly configuring their systems, especially to the detriment of the
majority of viewers. I personally use 1920x1440 on my primary workstation,
and I find the current appearance of the wiki to be about perfect, without
any zoom or configuration changes, and it still looks great on my 1024x768
laptop. Since I'm nearly blind, I have to wonder what other people are
seeing that is causing them to complain. I know that the static "*em" size
attributes are interpreted differently by different systems and browsers, as
are most sizing specifications, but I guess I haven't seen the full extent of
the differences. I'm not saying we can't adjust the CSS to increase the font
size a little, but be careful about what you're targetting.
As for "letters per row", that's really not something we can or should
to plan for in HTML/CSS design. It is beyond the scope of markup and totally
irrelevant for dynamically sized elements.
Although we should really use something close to 1em and let the user
choose the zooming, the current proposal (0.85em) is relatively small to
fit a lot of text in the page. For reference, one could check out the
mozilla, gnome and ubuntu wikis.
> Something else to be aware of is that we still plan on upgrading the wiki
> soon, which would mean forward-porting theme changes. It might be easier
> to wait until after the upgrade to apply changes.
When is the update scheduled? If we do need to tweak the code to make the
wiki more usable, we should. Of course, we should do it in a way that we
can apply it for every update.
It is actively being worked on right now. A test site is already up and
running, and it won't take long for the team that's handling it to work out
the last few problems.
We might need some more changes, like putting a <div> around the table of
contents to manipulate it through CSS.
That would require patching the MoinMoin core. Changes like that should be
submitted upstream and given a chance to filter down, because we really don't
want to commit to that sort of maintenance.
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
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