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[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news

'
The Fedora website provided fairly positive results. Everyone was able
to find an appropriate download link for the Fedora ISOs. Likewise,
people were able to find the documentation to walk them through an
installation without too much trouble. What I found a bit amusing was
that almost a third of the participants thought Fedora was some sort of
Facebook plugin or application instead of a full operating system, due
to the project's logo. This is one of those things people inside the
Linux community would probably never consider, but there's a bit of a
confusion over the brand (apparently) where outsiders are concerned."

Rahul

[Danishka Navin]

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi
>
>  Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?
>  
No!
Seriously why we should change our logo for few people (it was just a
sample)

I have never heard such thing from my community.

anyway other projects do not have that advantage ;-)



>  http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news
>
>  '
>  The Fedora website provided fairly positive results. Everyone was able
>  to find an appropriate download link for the Fedora ISOs. Likewise,
>  people were able to find the documentation to walk them through an
>  installation without too much trouble. What I found a bit amusing was
>  that almost a third of the participants thought Fedora was some sort of
>  Facebook plugin or application instead of a full operating system, due
>  to the project's logo. This is one of those things people inside the
>  Linux community would probably never consider, but there's a bit of a
>  confusion over the brand (apparently) where outsiders are concerned."
>
>  Rahul
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[Elad Alfassa]

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?
> >
>
>  No!
>  Seriously why we should change our logo for few people (it was just a
>  sample)
>
>  I have never heard such thing from my community.
>
>  anyway other projects do not have that advantage ;-)
>
>
>
> >
> > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news
> >
> > '
> > The Fedora website provided fairly positive results. Everyone was able
> > to find an appropriate download link for the Fedora ISOs. Likewise,
> > people were able to find the documentation to walk them through an
> > installation without too much trouble. What I found a bit amusing was
> > that almost a third of the participants thought Fedora was some sort of
> > Facebook plugin or application instead of a full operating system, due
> > to the project's logo. This is one of those things people inside the
> > Linux community would probably never consider, but there's a bit of a
> > confusion over the brand (apparently) where outsiders are concerned."
> >
> > Rahul
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Just a little reminder, Fedora was around BEFORE Facebook. If there is
anyone who should change their logo, it's Facebook, not us.

-- 
-Elad Alfassa.

[Davi Garcia]

>  Just a little reminder, Fedora was around BEFORE Facebook. If there
> is
>  anyone who should change their logo, it's Facebook, not us. 
I definitely agree with that.

[Ankur Sinha]

On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 08:08 -0300, Davi Garcia wrote:
>  > Just a little reminder, Fedora was around BEFORE Facebook. If
> there is
>  > anyone who should change their logo, it's Facebook, not us.
>  
>  I definitely agree with that. 
+1

I see no reason at all to change our logo. It's perfect the way it is.
If someone thought it was a Facebook plug-in.. well... 
-- 
Thanks, 
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

[inode0]

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 08:08 -0300, Davi Garcia wrote:
> > > Just a little reminder, Fedora was around BEFORE Facebook. If there is
> > > anyone who should change their logo, it's Facebook, not us.
> >
> > I definitely agree with that.
>
>  +1
>
>  I see no reason at all to change our logo. It's perfect the way it is. 
If it is confused with other logos from a similar product space then
it isn't perfect. It may well be no fault of the logo but it is a
problem.

>  If someone thought it was a Facebook plug-in.. well... 
If a lot of someones think it is related to Facebook then it is a
problem worth thinking about before it gets completely out of control.
We have seen other hints that this confusion exists in the past as
well.

Admitting we have a brand problem which seems to be related to some
similar aspects that exist in our logo and in Facebook's logo doesn't
mean we need to abandon our logo. Are there other ways available to us
to mitigate this confusion? Perhaps advertising Fedora more widely so
more people are exposed to our brand more often? Perhaps something
else?

John

[Danishka Navin]

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:06 AM, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ankur Sinha
> <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>  > On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 08:08 -0300, Davi Garcia wrote:
>  >> > Just a little reminder, Fedora was around BEFORE Facebook. If there is
>  >> > anyone who should change their logo, it's Facebook, not us.
>  >>
>  >> I definitely agree with that.
>  >
>  > +1
>  >
>  > I see no reason at all to change our logo. It's perfect the way it is.
>
>  If it is confused with other logos from a similar product space then
>  it isn't perfect. It may well be no fault of the logo but it is a
>  problem.
>
>  > If someone thought it was a Facebook plug-in.. well...
>
>  If a lot of someones think it is related to Facebook then it is a
>  problem worth thinking about before it gets completely out of control.
>  We have seen other hints that this confusion exists in the past as
>  well.
>
>  Admitting we have a brand problem which seems to be related to some
>  similar aspects that exist in our logo and in Facebook's logo doesn't
>  mean we need to abandon our logo. Are there other ways available to us
>  to mitigate this confusion? Perhaps advertising Fedora more widely so
>  more people are exposed to our brand more often? Perhaps something
>  else?
>  

it would be great if we could identify the region/location of those people.
but there is no such information i guess.

I think we should increase our presence in the social media specially in
Facebook itself.


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[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

----- "Danishka Navin" <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:06 AM, inode0 < inode0(a)gmail.com >
> wrote:
>  
>  If it is confused with other logos from a similar product space then
>  it isn't perfect. It may well be no fault of the logo but it is a
>  problem.
>  
>  If a lot of someones think it is related to Facebook then it is a
>  problem worth thinking about before it gets completely out of control.
>  We have seen other hints that this confusion exists in the past as
>  well.
>  
>  Admitting we have a brand problem which seems to be related to some
>  similar aspects that exist in our logo and in Facebook's logo doesn't
>  mean we need to abandon our logo. Are there other ways available to us
>  to mitigate this confusion? Perhaps advertising Fedora more widely so
>  more people are exposed to our brand more often? Perhaps something
>  else?
>  
>  it would be great if we could identify the region/location of those
>  people.
>  but there is no such information i guess.
>  
>  I think we should increase our presence in the social media specially
>  in Facebook itself.
>   
Maybe it's something that Red Hat legal should have handled years ago and didn't?

-- Bob

[Kévin Raymond]

> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?
>
>
>  No!
>  Seriously why we should change our logo for few people (it was just a
>  sample) 
Firstly, our logo is the original one, Facebook have been inspirated
by our brillant design!
Secondly, our objectives are not to gather everypeople around one Free
Operating System, but to gather contributors… In every domains, yes.


>  I have never heard such thing from my community. 
I have.
You can read an old thread on the ambassador mailing list:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-May/014452.html

If someone has to change his logo, we won't.



-- 
Kévin Raymond
(shaiton)
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[Robyn Bergeron]

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi
>
>  Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed? 
It wouldn't just be the logo. It would wind up being the whole branding.

We've spent a LOT of time building this branding up - I think the
effects of diluting the brand  / muddying it with a new one would be
more far more detrimental.
>  http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news
>
>  '
>  The Fedora website provided fairly positive results. Everyone was able
>  to find an appropriate download link for the Fedora ISOs. Likewise,
>  people were able to find the documentation to walk them through an
>  installation without too much trouble. What I found a bit amusing was
>  that almost a third of the participants thought Fedora was some sort of
>  Facebook plugin or application instead of a full operating system, due
>  to the project's logo. This is one of those things people inside the
>  Linux community would probably never consider, but there's a bit of a
>  confusion over the brand (apparently) where outsiders are concerned."
>
>  Rahul
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[Adam Pribyl]

On Tue, 8 May 2012, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

>  Hi
>
>  Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?
>
>  http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news
>
>  '
>  The Fedora website provided fairly positive results. Everyone was able
>  to find an appropriate download link for the Fedora ISOs. Likewise,
>  people were able to find the documentation to walk them through an
>  installation without too much trouble. What I found a bit amusing was
>  that almost a third of the participants thought Fedora was some sort of
>  Facebook plugin or application instead of a full operating system, due
>  to the project's logo. This is one of those things people inside the
>  Linux community would probably never consider, but there's a bit of a
>  confusion over the brand (apparently) where outsiders are concerned." 
OK, let's close the facebook. I do not use it anyway...

>  Rahul 
Well, seriously, there is not much we can do about it... except saying "We 
are not the facebook, but facebook stack on us."

Adam Pribyl

[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
>  Hi
>  
>  Serious question; Should the Fedora logo be changed?
>  
>  http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120507#news 
s/Fedora/Homburg[1]? 

"A homburg is a formal felt hat, a Tyrolean-style fedora."

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homburg_%28hat%29

R.

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