Templating -- mirrormanager and our other websites

[Dimitris Glezos]

(To moderator: sorry for the same email sent from the other email address.)


Hi all.

Last night I played a bit with the mirrormanager kid templates:

  http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/

and tried to bring them along the lines of the current fedoraproject.org master
template and the look-n-feel of the content of translate.fedoraproject.org, and
came up to this:

  http://glezos.fedorapeople.org/mm-take3.png

Here's a list of most of our websites:

  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/DomainsList

In order to bring some of these under a common look-and-feel we can have
something like the following:

 - CSS
   - One global CSS that "just works" (think: fedoraproject.org)
   - One CSS with commonly-used items like the heading icons, etc.
   - Each website can have its own CSS, overriding values from the default
 - Templates
   - Can be overridden, so again, a master template can exist (think: fpo)
   - Probably another one or two, depending on our needs (eg. full-width etc).
   - Each website can define a master one overriding stuff from the default; eg.
     custom menu in sidebar -- see translate.fpo and above screenshot).
   - Every page of a website can, in turn, override the above.

CSS's are easy to import. For templates, Toshio suggested to create a package
that will contain all the templates, so that a TG app can use them, and we can
update the package if we need to change, for example, the footer of all our TG apps.

-d


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[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 19:29 +0100, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>  (To moderator: sorry for the same email sent from the other email
> address.)
>  
>  
>  Hi all.
>  
>  Last night I played a bit with the mirrormanager kid templates:
>  
>    http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/
>  
>  and tried to bring them along the lines of the current fedoraproject.org master
>  template and the look-n-feel of the content of translate.fedoraproject.org, and
>  came up to this:
>  
>    http://glezos.fedorapeople.org/mm-take3.png
>  
>  Here's a list of most of our websites:
>  
>    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/DomainsList
>  
>  In order to bring some of these under a common look-and-feel we can have
>  something like the following:
>  
>   - CSS
>     - One global CSS that "just works" (think: fedoraproject.org)
>     - One CSS with commonly-used items like the heading icons, etc.
>     - Each website can have its own CSS, overriding values from the default
>   - Templates
>     - Can be overridden, so again, a master template can exist (think: fpo)
>     - Probably another one or two, depending on our needs (eg. full-width etc).
>     - Each website can define a master one overriding stuff from the default; eg.
>       custom menu in sidebar -- see translate.fpo and above screenshot).
>     - Every page of a website can, in turn, override the above.
>  
>  CSS's are easy to import. For templates, Toshio suggested to create a package
>  that will contain all the templates, so that a TG app can use them, and we can
>  update the package if we need to change, for example, the footer of all our TG apps.
I like this plan :-).  The only thing I'd add about templating is that
we should keep an eye out for making our templates portable to genshi as
genshi is a better kid and will be replacing it as the TurboGears
default in the future.  Mainly, this means that kid templates should
include and override each other based on match rules rather than
inheritance.

-Toshio

[Craig Thomas]

On 7/28/07, Dimitris Glezos <dimitris(a)glezos.com&gt; wrote:
>  Last night I played a bit with the mirrormanager kid templates:
>
>    http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/
>
>  and tried to bring them along the lines of the current fedoraproject.orgmaster
>  template and the look-n-feel of the content of translate.fedoraproject.org,
>  and
>  came up to this:
>
>    http://glezos.fedorapeople.org/mm-take3.png 


Hi All,

I've also been playing with the publiclist kid template, using it to try and
come up with a master.kid/CSS that 'just worked' in TG.  I have some time
invested in a 'master' template for TG, but am not really satisfied with it
yet...I'm still figuring my way through kid's inheritance rules (which seem
exactly backwards from how i want to use them...), anyway I'd like to work
together to skin the TG apps with a standard fedora .kid template.  My
trouble has been in creating a master.kid which works with more than one/any
TG app.

Do you have a working .kid template you can share?

--
Craig

[Dimitris Glezos]

O/H Craig Thomas έγραψε:
>  On 7/28/07, *Dimitris Glezos* <dimitris(a)glezos.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>      Last night I played a bit with the mirrormanager kid templates:
>  
>        http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/
>  
>      and tried to bring them along the lines of the current
>      fedoraproject.org <http://fedoraproject.org> master
>      template and the look-n-feel of the content of
>      translate.fedoraproject.org <http://translate.fedoraproject.org>;, and
>      came up to this:
>  
>        http://glezos.fedorapeople.org/mm-take3.png
>  
>  
>  
>  Hi All,
>  
>  I've also been playing with the publiclist kid template, using it to try
>  and come up with a master.kid/CSS that 'just worked' in TG.  I have some
>  time invested in a 'master' template for TG, but am not really satisfied
>  with it yet...I'm still figuring my way through kid's inheritance rules
>  (which seem exactly backwards from how i want to use them...), anyway
>  I'd like to work together to skin the TG apps with a standard fedora
>  .kid template.  My trouble has been in creating a master.kid which works
>  with more than one/any TG app.
>  
>  Do you have a working .kid template you can share? 
You might want to take a look at the transifex one [1]. Another useful link is
the ticket Mike has mentioned on infra-list [2].

[1]:https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/transifex/browser/transifex/...
[2]:https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/55

We can also note stuff on a wiki page to keep the plan somewhere documented
properly.

-d

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