the header of the site

[moshe nahmias]

Hi,
I am from Israel and use fedora in English for some time now, just found
out the fedora site in Hebrew and wanted to say it looks good.

A few things I want to comment on...
It seem a bit strange for me that the header is positioned from left to
right, meaning that the fedora logo is on the left side and the choosing of
the site language is on the right side just like the English version.
Since Hebrew is written right to left it seems a bit strange to have it
that way.

I mean that the fedora logo and the "4 F's" are supposed to be on the right
side and the language selection and the contribute reference to redhat on
the left side.

BTW, why the 4 F's are not translated? As long as the first letter doesn't
have to be the same as the first letter in fedora or between the words
themselves it's easy to translate in the spirit of fedora and linux

With regards, Moshe

[Kévin Raymond]

Le vendredi 14 juin 2013 à 18:48:48 (+0300), moshe nahmias a écrit : 
>  Hi,
>  I am from Israel and use fedora in English for some time now, just found out
>  the fedora site in Hebrew and wanted to say it looks good.
>  
>  A few things I want to comment on...
>  It seem a bit strange for me that the header is positioned from left to right,
>  meaning that the fedora logo is on the left side and the choosing of the site
>  language is on the right side just like the English version.
>  Since Hebrew is written right to left it seems a bit strange to have it that
>  way. 
Hi Moshe,

Thanks for your feedback.
I agree, we could update that, but this concern legal and logo usage
guidelines.
I am not sure we want the 4 F's to be at the left side of the Fedora logo.
And keeping the logo that way, if we just switch the side without
revert, it would look wierd IMHO.
I'll see what we can do for that.
Elad did most part of the RTL CSS. Elad, any opinion?

>  
>  I mean that the fedora logo and the "4 F's" are supposed to be on the
> right
>  side and the language selection and the contribute reference to redhat on the
>  left side.
>  
>  BTW, why the 4 F's are not translated? As long as the first letter doesn't have
>  to be the same as the first letter in fedora or between the words themselves
>  it's easy to translate in the spirit of fedora and linux 
They were. And we reverted.
We decided to not translate the 4 F's when they are printed with the
Fedora logo. Because it could lead to legal issues. Because we don't have
official translations in every languages. Because translations don't
always use words begining with an F. And because sometimes the wording
change during translations leading to misinterpretation. We wanted to
avoid that.

On an other side, the 4 F's are translated down on this page, when they
are not part of the Fedora logo.

Cheers,

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)

[Elad Alfassa]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:

>  Le vendredi 14 juin 2013 à 18:48:48 (+0300), moshe nahmias a écrit :
>  > Hi,
>  > I am from Israel and use fedora in English for some time now, just found
>  out
>  > the fedora site in Hebrew and wanted to say it looks good.
>  >
>  > A few things I want to comment on...
>  > It seem a bit strange for me that the header is positioned from left to
>  right,
>  > meaning that the fedora logo is on the left side and the choosing of the
>  site
>  > language is on the right side just like the English version.
>  > Since Hebrew is written right to left it seems a bit strange to have it
>  that
>  > way.
>
>  Hi Moshe,
>
>  Thanks for your feedback.
>  I agree, we could update that, but this concern legal and logo usage
>  guidelines.
>  I am not sure we want the 4 F's to be at the left side of the Fedora logo.
>  And keeping the logo that way, if we just switch the side without
>  revert, it would look wierd IMHO.
>  I'll see what we can do for that.
>  Elad did most part of the RTL CSS. Elad, any opinion?
>  
I think that the logo needs to be on the left because Fedora is an English
word, and it will look weird on the right side of the screen.


>  >
>  > I mean that the fedora logo and the "4 F's" are supposed to be on the
>  right
>  > side and the language selection and the contribute reference to redhat
>  on the
>  > left side.
>  >
>  > BTW, why the 4 F's are not translated? As long as the first letter
>  doesn't have
>  > to be the same as the first letter in fedora or between the words
>  themselves
>  > it's easy to translate in the spirit of fedora and linux
>
>  They were. And we reverted.
>  We decided to not translate the 4 F's when they are printed with the
>  Fedora logo. Because it could lead to legal issues. Because we don't have
>  official translations in every languages. Because translations don't
>  always use words begining with an F. And because sometimes the wording
>  change during translations leading to misinterpretation. We wanted to
>  avoid that.
>
>  On an other side, the 4 F's are translated down on this page, when they
>  are not part of the Fedora logo.
>
>  Where? the 4Fs on the middle of the frontpage are non-translatable images, 
and I
don't see the 4Fs anywhere else



>  Cheers,
>
>  --
>  Kévin Raymond
>  (Shaiton)
>
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-- 
-Elad Alfassa.

[Kévin Raymond]

[snip]
>  
>      They were. And we reverted.
>      We decided to not translate the 4 F's when they are printed with the
>      Fedora logo. Because it could lead to legal issues. Because we don't have
>      official translations in every languages. Because translations don't
>      always use words begining with an F. And because sometimes the wording
>      change during translations leading to misinterpretation. We wanted to
>      avoid that.
>  
>      On an other side, the 4 F's are translated down on this page, when they
>      are not part of the Fedora logo.
>  
>  
>  Where? the 4Fs on the middle of the frontpage are non-translatable images, and
>  I don't see the 4Fs anywhere else
>   

Oops you'r right.
I meant in about: https://fedoraproject.org/about-fedora