Fedora Art team needs some kind of art gallery system like http://art.gnome.org.
Existing popular solutions are PHP based and generally unacceptable for security reasons.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-July/msg00025.html Summary of current Plone situation.
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all. - It doesn't integrate with the Fedora Account system. I would assert that this would be a requirement for production plone deployment, because we shouldn't have yet another account database to maintain. The account system is centralized for a reason, and makes it easier to enforce CLA.
http://www.contentmanagementsoftware.info/zope/photo-gallery It is unconfirmed whether the plone component described here will actually do the job. Has anyone tried it?
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
Plone has a nice built in photo gallery. We should not need an add-on product. Plone also integrates well with other login systems using PAS (the zope Pluggable Authentication Service). If the accounts system was to change to ldap, integration would be simple as plugins are already written for ldap. I have not looked for SQL plugins but would expect at least a base to be available. I also expect to find ldap support for moinmoin, bugzilla and others. POSIX accounts are easy to do with ldap.
Jon
Warren Togami wrote:
Fedora Art team needs some kind of art gallery system like http://art.gnome.org.
Existing popular solutions are PHP based and generally unacceptable for security reasons.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-July/msg00025.html
Summary of current Plone situation.
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all.
- It doesn't integrate with the Fedora Account system. I would assert
that this would be a requirement for production plone deployment, because we shouldn't have yet another account database to maintain. The account system is centralized for a reason, and makes it easier to enforce CLA.
http://www.contentmanagementsoftware.info/zope/photo-gallery It is unconfirmed whether the plone component described here will actually do the job. Has anyone tried it?
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:30 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all.
What is the question here? This is the first I've heard about this. AFAIC, the issue of "do we need a CMS" is long ago settled.
- Karsten
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 01:09 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:30 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all.
What is the question here? This is the first I've heard about this. AFAIC, the issue of "do we need a CMS" is long ago settled.
Yeah, that's news to me too. We on Docs team definitely need it, we just don't have anyone in our subproject who can make it do the things we want. A glance at the archives will show up several instances where I asked for help with this, but I'm sure it's not as high a priority as other things like the buildsystem. I even tried to get some personnel resources from outside the Red Hat walls -- a contributor who I met at the Summit who said he had a person with the requisite skills. No word back, so I suppose I should try him again.
It's one thing to simply install a CMS and put it on a web server. We have lots of people who can do that. It's quite another to actually USE one effectively to build a workflow and deploy the tools contributors need.
O/H Paul W. Frields έγραψε:
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 01:09 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:30 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all.
What is the question here? This is the first I've heard about this. AFAIC, the issue of "do we need a CMS" is long ago settled.
Yeah, that's news to me too. We on Docs team definitely need it, we just don't have anyone in our subproject who can make it do the things we want. A glance at the archives will show up several instances where I asked for help with this, but I'm sure it's not as high a priority as other things like the buildsystem. I even tried to get some personnel resources from outside the Red Hat walls -- a contributor who I met at the Summit who said he had a person with the requisite skills. No word back, so I suppose I should try him again.
It's one thing to simply install a CMS and put it on a web server. We have lots of people who can do that. It's quite another to actually USE one effectively to build a workflow and deploy the tools contributors need.
+1. The CMS installation's priority should definitely be increased. As Paul said, we on docs team definitely need it.
It may require a considerable amount of work, but it's a "do it once, enjoy it's fruits for a long time" work.
-dim
Dimitris Glezos wrote:
O/H Paul W. Frields έγραψε:
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 01:09 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:30 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
From what I can gather, Plone is installed and running, but it is currently not widely used by Fedora for several big reasons:
- It is questioned whether Plone is needed at all.
What is the question here? This is the first I've heard about this. AFAIC, the issue of "do we need a CMS" is long ago settled.
Yeah, that's news to me too. We on Docs team definitely need it, we just don't have anyone in our subproject who can make it do the things we want. A glance at the archives will show up several instances where I asked for help with this, but I'm sure it's not as high a priority as other things like the buildsystem. I even tried to get some personnel resources from outside the Red Hat walls -- a contributor who I met at the Summit who said he had a person with the requisite skills. No word back, so I suppose I should try him again.
It's one thing to simply install a CMS and put it on a web server. We have lots of people who can do that. It's quite another to actually USE one effectively to build a workflow and deploy the tools contributors need.
+1. The CMS installation's priority should definitely be increased. As Paul said, we on docs team definitely need it.
It may require a considerable amount of work, but it's a "do it once, enjoy it's fruits for a long time" work.
-dim
I run the Fedora Unity zope/plone stuff. I have offered my help but have never gotten access to the ZMI and/or made any progress on expressing Fedora Unity has already learned many lessons about using Plone and what *not* to do. I also have been working to package plone-ldap which would be all that is needed to get Plone 2.5 with PAS authenticating from LDAP. For example, the Fedora Unity sites use Fedora Directory Server and I set that up. The systems are not yet packaged.. but need to be. I offer my help and experience.
Jonathan Steffan
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