I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
Hi Kamisamanou,
I was wondering if you would consider Yahoo's calendar. Google's is not open source, but Yahoo's new calendar uses Zimbra which is open source.
http://switch.calendar.yahoo.com/m/landing.php
~m
________________________________ From: Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net To: fedora-websites-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:34:36 PM Subject: Release Calendar(GCal)
I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
I'd hate to say this, but this is mainly for personal reasons. If someone had already made one, I was going to use it and leave it at that. I will create one(in Google) regardless of what happens here for my own personal use.
As far as Yahoo is concerned: Zimbra(admittedly, built by Yahoo) is just a desktop client used to access Yahoo's calendar, which, itself is not open source. I also hate Yahoo's interface, account system, and other aspects of the company and its products(Not that this really matters, it is just personal preference).
And Google: GNOME's online desktop access Google's products, I use online desktop. Also, with the exception of the obviously proprietary(GMail, GCal, etc.) Google is more involved with open source than Yahoo(Think Summer of Code projects, Google Chrome). It is also worth noting that Mugshot, a service created by RedHat interacts with Google products. I also believe there are some major open source groups that use Google Groups. I'm not trying to imply Google is super open source, just that there are just as many opensource interactions (think zimbra-yahoo) as there are in Yahoo.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 18:40, Máirín Duffy mairin@linuxgrrl.com wrote:
Hi Kamisamanou,
I was wondering if you would consider Yahoo's calendar. Google's is not open source, but Yahoo's new calendar uses Zimbra which is open source.
http://switch.calendar.yahoo.com/m/landing.php
~m
From: Kamisamanou Burgess <kamisamanou@kamisamanou.nethttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net
To: fedora-websites-list@redhat.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=fedora-websites-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:34:36 PM Subject: Release Calendar(GCal)
I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
Actually, Zimbra is not just the desktop client, it's the server too. And it was bought by Yahoo but built by a smaller company at first.
Looking like they are friendly to open source doesn't mean Google is open source. Yahoo! is very friendly to open source and actually uses open source where Google does not.
~m
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:29, Máirín Duffy mairin@linuxgrrl.com wrote:
Actually, Zimbra is not just the desktop client, it's the server too. And it was bought by Yahoo but built by a smaller company at first.
Looking like they are friendly to open source doesn't mean Google is open source. Yahoo! is very friendly to open source and actually uses open source where Google does not.
~m
Please don't twist my words. I never said Google was open source, merely that they are involved. Also Google Chrome is open source, the last part of your last sentence is untrue.
That being said, lets avoid further discussion about the licensing Google and Yahoo. This is about a calendar, not the morals, policies, etc. of two large corporations. *We need to stay on topic.*
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 00:06, Kamisamanou Burgess < kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net> wrote:
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:29, Máirín Duffy <mairin@linuxgrrl.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=mairin@linuxgrrl.com
wrote:
Actually, Zimbra is not just the desktop client, it's the server too. And it was bought by Yahoo but built by a smaller company at first.
Looking like they are friendly to open source doesn't mean Google is open source. Yahoo! is very friendly to open source and actually uses open source where Google does not.
~m
Please don't twist my words. I never said Google was open source, merely that they are involved. Also Google Chrome is open source, the last part of your last sentence is untrue.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Máirín Duffy mairin@linuxgrrl.com wrote:
Hi Kamisamanou,
I was wondering if you would consider Yahoo's calendar. Google's is not open source, but Yahoo's new calendar uses Zimbra which is open source.
http://switch.calendar.yahoo.com/m/landing.php
~m
There is currently a calendar discussion going on at Fedora Infrastructure. We've got a draft on the wiki and hope to have some plans to implement this in the near future. Would you consider putting your considerations there?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Fe...)
Cheers,
Clint
On that wiki page?
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:07, Clint Savage herlo1@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Máirín Duffy <mairin@linuxgrrl.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=mairin@linuxgrrl.com> wrote:
Hi Kamisamanou,
I was wondering if you would consider Yahoo's calendar. Google's is not
open source, but Yahoo's new calendar uses Zimbra which is open source.
http://switch.calendar.yahoo.com/m/landing.php
~m
There is currently a calendar discussion going on at Fedora Infrastructure. We've got a draft on the wiki and hope to have some plans to implement this in the near future. Would you consider putting your considerations there?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Fe...)https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_%28Draft%29
Cheers,
Clint
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net wrote:
On that wiki page?
Kamisamanou,
Yes, that page is a draft of the desired features we'd like to see in a calendar server. Currently, it's pretty blank. Using google calendar or yahoo calendar is pretty limiting and nobody seems to agree on one. Putting it in the fedora infrastructure seems more reasonable.
Here's the rest of the discussion I didn't include the first time:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg...
Please read all the thread since it's pretty long. The wiki page is a draft as I said and came from this discussion. Please please help us decide on how to proceed.
Cheers,
Clint
I think it is time for me to clarify my purpose. 1. I want to know if anybody on this list has created a Google Calendar for the Fedora Releases that is kept current and up to date as often as possible.
2. If the answer to one is not yes, then I will create one what is being asked for in question one, regardless of what is said on this list. I then pose the question of whether or not to place a link it on the Releases/latest +1/Schedule page for others to which I want the answer of yes or no.
3. If anyone wants the same thing in the Yahoo calendar, they are perfectly free to do exactly as I do/request. This is just a contribution to the community that the Project can either accept or deny.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 19:35, Clint Savage herlo1@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess <kamisamanou@kamisamanou.nethttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net> wrote:
On that wiki page?
Kamisamanou,
Yes, that page is a draft of the desired features we'd like to see in a calendar server. Currently, it's pretty blank. Using google calendar or yahoo calendar is pretty limiting and nobody seems to agree on one. Putting it in the fedora infrastructure seems more reasonable.
Here's the rest of the discussion I didn't include the first time:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg...
Please read all the thread since it's pretty long. The wiki page is a draft as I said and came from this discussion. Please please help us decide on how to proceed.
Cheers,
Clint
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net wrote:
I think it is time for me to clarify my purpose.
- I want to know if anybody on this list has created a Google Calendar for
the Fedora Releases that is kept current and up to date as often as possible.
I understand your purpose for this email, I was hoping you might help join a bigger project. I am responding to you, saying that whether or not it has been created, the problem I describe will continue to exist. While I can see an interim solution, creating a calendar server in fedora's infrastructure seems more viable than either yahoo or google's calendar.
- If the answer to one is not yes, then I will create one what is being
asked for in question one, regardless of what is said on this list. I then pose the question of whether or not to place a link it on the Releases/latest +1/Schedule page for others to which I want the answer of yes or no.
That I know of, there has not been a release schedule calendar created for F11. However, who's going to use the one you create? If it's just for you, then by all means, but wouldn't it be nice to have one for everyone? Google calendar and yahoo calendars will not suffice.
- If anyone wants the same thing in the Yahoo calendar, they are perfectly
free to do exactly as I do/request. This is just a contribution to the community that the Project can either accept or deny.
Would you consider helping us create a calendar within the fedora infrastructure too? I think it's a useful project and could really bolster our planning, meetings, and much, much more.
Thanks
Clint
Reply below
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 20:57, Clint Savage herlo1@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess <kamisamanou@kamisamanou.nethttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net> wrote:
I think it is time for me to clarify my purpose.
- I want to know if anybody on this list has created a Google Calendar
for
the Fedora Releases that is kept current and up to date as often as possible.
I understand your purpose for this email, I was hoping you might help join a bigger project. I am responding to you, saying that whether or not it has been created, the problem I describe will continue to exist. While I can see an interim solution, creating a calendar server in fedora's infrastructure seems more viable than either yahoo or google's calendar.
- If the answer to one is not yes, then I will create one what is being
asked for in question one, regardless of what is said on this list. I
then
pose the question of whether or not to place a link it on the Releases/latest +1/Schedule page for others to which I want the answer of yes or no.
That I know of, there has not been a release schedule calendar created for F11. However, who's going to use the one you create? If it's just for you, then by all means, but wouldn't it be nice to have one for everyone? Google calendar and yahoo calendars will not suffice.
It would be used by anyone with Google Calendar, or anyone who can subscribe to an ICal feed.
- If anyone wants the same thing in the Yahoo calendar, they are
perfectly
free to do exactly as I do/request. This is just a contribution to the community that the Project can either accept or deny.
Would you consider helping us create a calendar within the fedora infrastructure too? I think it's a useful project and could really bolster our planning, meetings, and much, much more.
I agree. I just don't know if I'd have that much time.
Thanks
Clint
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net wrote:
Reply below
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 20:57, Clint Savage herlo1@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net wrote:
I think it is time for me to clarify my purpose.
- I want to know if anybody on this list has created a Google Calendar
for the Fedora Releases that is kept current and up to date as often as possible.
I understand your purpose for this email, I was hoping you might help join a bigger project. I am responding to you, saying that whether or not it has been created, the problem I describe will continue to exist. While I can see an interim solution, creating a calendar server in fedora's infrastructure seems more viable than either yahoo or google's calendar.
- If the answer to one is not yes, then I will create one what is being
asked for in question one, regardless of what is said on this list. I then pose the question of whether or not to place a link it on the Releases/latest +1/Schedule page for others to which I want the answer of yes or no.
That I know of, there has not been a release schedule calendar created for F11. However, who's going to use the one you create? If it's just for you, then by all means, but wouldn't it be nice to have one for everyone? Google calendar and yahoo calendars will not suffice.
It would be used by anyone with Google Calendar, or anyone who can subscribe to an ICal feed.
I get that it would/could be used by anyone who can subscribe to an iCal feed. That was not my point.
How are you going to convince all of the fedoraproject members to use your calendar feed? I'm suspecting you'll find resistance unless it's official and promoted within the project. I'm for sure *not* saying that you can't do a google calendar. If you shared it with all the fedoraproject members that some might even use it. Please feel free to implement it, but keep in mind that a calendar that you are referencing isn't going to be as usable as a calendar within the fedora infrastructure.
Let me know how your calendar feed goes and I'll possibly even subscribe to it if you keep maintaining it and provide me with editing rights so I can add events (like what's on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) to the calendar too. I'd love to have that available to me.
Good luck,
Clint
Kamisamanou Burgess wrote:
I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
Have you seen this: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/
Right now the ability to build iCal files isn't working, but it is being worked on. In theory you could import those to Google Calendar. Would this do what you want?
John
As long as the iCal would be a url that I could subscribe to and it would be kept as up-to-date or moreso than the wiki page, then yes, that would be excellent. Are iCal feeds dynamic?
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 20:22, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Kamisamanou Burgess wrote:
I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
Have you seen this: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/
Right now the ability to build iCal files isn't working, but it is being worked on. In theory you could import those to Google Calendar. Would this do what you want?
John
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Kamisamanou Burgess said the following on 02/20/2009 07:24 AM Pacific Time:
As long as the iCal would be a url that I could subscribe to and it would be kept as up-to-date or moreso than the wiki page, then yes, that would be excellent. Are iCal feeds dynamic?
I'm not sure what you mean by "are the feeds dynamic"?
The iCal file is updated each time the schedule is rebuilt and could be hosted as part of the other html reports on my people page.
John
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 18:13, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Kamisamanou Burgess said the following on 02/20/2009 07:24 AM Pacific Time:
As long as the iCal would be a url that I could subscribe to and it would be kept as up-to-date or moreso than the wiki page, then yes, that would be excellent. Are iCal feeds dynamic?
I'm not sure what you mean by "are the feeds dynamic"?
What I mean, is that will I recieve updates to the calendar without downloading the .ics file again?
The iCal file is updated each time the schedule is rebuilt and could be hosted as part of the other html reports on my people page.
John
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2009/2/23 Kamisamanou Burgess kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 18:13, John Poelstra poelstra@redhat.com wrote:
Kamisamanou Burgess said the following on 02/20/2009 07:24 AM Pacific Time:
As long as the iCal would be a url that I could subscribe to and it would be kept as up-to-date or moreso than the wiki page, then yes, that would be excellent. Are iCal feeds dynamic?
I'm not sure what you mean by "are the feeds dynamic"?
What I mean, is that will I recieve updates to the calendar without downloading the .ics file again?
The iCal file is updated each time the schedule is rebuilt and could be hosted as part of the other html reports on my people page.
John
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Wow, this topic was really interesting. I'm wondering after all that email threading did anyone draft a Google Calendar or Yahoo Calendar? If not, I can start one, referencing the Fedora Events, and share it with the admins and everyone. I agree that it would be easier to share using Google Calendar, but that's because I actually use Google Cal on a regular basis... so that may be bias of me.
Marc, Neither has been created. After much discussion most people were against it. I had want to create a Google Calendar as well. Someone mentioned they had something in the works, yet I haven't seen the fruit of that effort.
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:08, Marc Ferguson marcferguson@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/23 Kamisamanou Burgess <kamisamanou@kamisamanou.nethttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=kamisamanou@kamisamanou.net
Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 18:13, John Poelstra <poelstra@redhat.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=poelstra@redhat.com
wrote:
Kamisamanou Burgess said the following on 02/20/2009 07:24 AM Pacific Time:
As long as the iCal would be a url that I could subscribe to and it would be kept as up-to-date or moreso than the wiki page, then yes, that would be excellent. Are iCal feeds dynamic?
I'm not sure what you mean by "are the feeds dynamic"?
What I mean, is that will I recieve updates to the calendar without downloading the .ics file again?
The iCal file is updated each time the schedule is rebuilt and could be hosted as part of the other html reports on my people page.
John
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Wow, this topic was really interesting. I'm wondering after all that email threading did anyone draft a Google Calendar or Yahoo Calendar? If not, I can start one, referencing the Fedora Events, and share it with the admins and everyone. I agree that it would be easier to share using Google Calendar, but that's because I actually use Google Cal on a regular basis... so that may be bias of me.
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