About Planet App

[Rodrigo Menezes]

Hi Guys,

We in Brazil are planning to create a local Planet Fedora, a page just 
in pt_BR. The original idea came because a lot of users doesn't read 
english and doesn't want to search something in portuguese in a blog 
with 95% written in english.

My question is, with application do you use in Planet Fedora? How can I 
create a server like the original only with our blogs? I know that the 
new version use Fedora Account System, so I'm interesting in all 
applications used in the old aggregator verion.

Can you help me?

-- 
Cheers,

Rodrigo Menezes
Fedora Amabassador
Embaixador do Projeto Fedora
http://www.projetofedora.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoMenezes

[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-07-17 11:59:49 PM, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  We in Brazil are planning to create a local Planet Fedora, a page
> just  
>  in pt_BR. The original idea came because a lot of users doesn't read  
>  english and doesn't want to search something in portuguese in a blog  
>  with 95% written in english.
>
>  My question is, with application do you use in Planet Fedora? How can I  
>  create a server like the original only with our blogs? I know that the  
>  new version use Fedora Account System, so I'm interesting in all  
>  applications used in the old aggregator verion. 
We're currently using Venus
(http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/).
I'm not sure if it's in Fedora yet, although we should have a package
for it in the Infrastructure repo:
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/el/5/SRPMS/venus-bzrrev86-1.el5.s...

Hope this helps,
Ricky

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:49 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
>  On 2008-07-17 11:59:49 PM, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  > We in Brazil are planning to create a local Planet Fedora, a page just  
>  > in pt_BR. The original idea came because a lot of users doesn't read  
>  > english and doesn't want to search something in portuguese in a blog  
>  > with 95% written in english.
>  >
>  > My question is, with application do you use in Planet Fedora? How can I  
>  > create a server like the original only with our blogs? I know that the  
>  > new version use Fedora Account System, so I'm interesting in all  
>  > applications used in the old aggregator verion.
>  We're currently using Venus (http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/).
>  I'm not sure if it's in Fedora yet, although we should have a package
>  for it in the Infrastructure repo:
>  http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/el/5/SRPMS/venus-bzrrev86-1.el5.s... 
We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as well.

I think this brings up the need for some sort of way that Planet readers
can select a feed based on one or more languages they prefer.

Let's all make sure that we are not producing separate "splinter"
communities, but instead, communities that are an important part of the
whole Fedora community, with their own special flavor!

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[Rodrigo Menezes]

For us, this is perfect. We are point all local user to our portal 
(www.projetofedora.org) because of local language, but we can create a 
link to a Planet in any place.

As soon as local users can access only pt_BR content and can use a RSS 
Feed for this selection is ok for us.

Good idea.

Cheers,

Rodrigo Menezes


Paul W. Frields escreveu:
>  On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:49 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
>    
> > On 2008-07-17 11:59:49 PM, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
> >     
> >> We in Brazil are planning to create a local Planet Fedora, a page just  
> >> in pt_BR. The original idea came because a lot of users doesn't read  
> >> english and doesn't want to search something in portuguese in a blog  
> >> with 95% written in english.
> >>
> >> My question is, with application do you use in Planet Fedora? How can I  
> >> create a server like the original only with our blogs? I know that the  
> >> new version use Fedora Account System, so I'm interesting in all  
> >> applications used in the old aggregator verion.
> >>       
> > We're currently using Venus (http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/).
> > I'm not sure if it's in Fedora yet, although we should have a package
> > for it in the Infrastructure repo:
> > http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/el/5/SRPMS/venus-bzrrev86-1.el5.s...
> >     
>
>  We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as well.
>
>  I think this brings up the need for some sort of way that Planet readers
>  can select a feed based on one or more languages they prefer.
>
>  Let's all make sure that we are not producing separate "splinter"
>  communities, but instead, communities that are an important part of the
>  whole Fedora community, with their own special flavor!
>
>

[Karsten Wade]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:44 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:

>  We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as
> well. 
Seth Vidal said he could make the new .planet file able to handle l10n.
Not sure if the function is there, it might just be a stub right now.

Rodrigo -- can you enter in an infrastructure ticket to have a pt_BR
feed created on planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR? (Presuming that is a
good URL.)

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure

Then we can find out from Seth how it can work, and recruit a web
programmer to help, if needed.

Once that is done, you can use it to populate a "mirror" planet on
projetofedora.org.  The people can use the existing system and quickly
populate language-specific planets.

- Karsten
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[Rodrigo Menezes]

I'll fill the ticket right now.

What I need? A Planet only in pt_BR and a working RSS for this pt_BR 
website.

About URL, I can create a planeta.projetofedora.org and set this 
dub-domain to re-direct to  planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR, no problems.

I'm making some tests with Venus here, just to see how it works, can you 
provide the theme used in our Planet?

Cheers,

Rodrigo Menezes

 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade escreveu:
>  On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:44 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
>    
> > We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as well.
> >     
>
>  Seth Vidal said he could make the new .planet file able to handle l10n.
>  Not sure if the function is there, it might just be a stub right now.
>
>  Rodrigo -- can you enter in an infrastructure ticket to have a pt_BR
>  feed created on planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR? (Presuming that is a
>  good URL.)
>
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure
>
>  Then we can find out from Seth how it can work, and recruit a web
>  programmer to help, if needed.
>
>  Once that is done, you can use it to populate a "mirror" planet on
>  projetofedora.org.  The people can use the existing system and quickly
>  populate language-specific planets.
>
>  - Karsten
>

[Rodrigo Menezes]

Ticket #712


Rodrigo Menezes escreveu:
>  I'll fill the ticket right now.
>
>  What I need? A Planet only in pt_BR and a working RSS for this pt_BR 
>  website.
>
>  About URL, I can create a planeta.projetofedora.org and set this 
>  dub-domain to re-direct to  planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR, no problems.
>
>  I'm making some tests with Venus here, just to see how it works, can 
>  you provide the theme used in our Planet?
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Rodrigo Menezes
>
>
>  Karsten 'quaid' Wade escreveu:
> > On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:44 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >
> >  
> >> We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as well.
> >>     
> >
> > Seth Vidal said he could make the new .planet file able to handle l10n.
> > Not sure if the function is there, it might just be a stub right now.
> >
> > Rodrigo -- can you enter in an infrastructure ticket to have a pt_BR
> > feed created on planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR? (Presuming that is a
> > good URL.)
> >
> > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure
> >
> > Then we can find out from Seth how it can work, and recruit a web
> > programmer to help, if needed.
> >
> > Once that is done, you can use it to populate a "mirror" planet on
> > projetofedora.org.  The people can use the existing system and quickly
> > populate language-specific planets.
> >
> > - Karsten
> >   
>  

-- 
Att,

Rodrigo Menezes
Fedora Amabassador
Embaixador do Projeto Fedora
http://www.projetofedora.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoMenezes

[Seth Vidal]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 18:42 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>  On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 19:44 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  
>  > We can aggregate the pt_BR stuff on the official Planet Fedora as well.
>  
>  Seth Vidal said he could make the new .planet file able to handle l10n.
>  Not sure if the function is there, it might just be a stub right now.
>  
>  Rodrigo -- can you enter in an infrastructure ticket to have a pt_BR
>  feed created on planet.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR? (Presuming that is a
>  good URL.)
>  
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure
>  
>  Then we can find out from Seth how it can work, and recruit a web
>  programmer to help, if needed. 

The idea was that users can make a .planet.$something file in their
homedir on fedorapeople.org. Then we can have a separate planet run grab
up those files, compile them and use them. The code we have now can deal
with that, we just need to decide which ones are needed and set up
planet to know to grab them.

How about a .planet.pt_BR?

-sv

[Diego Búrigo Zacarão]

Hello,

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, seth vidal <skvidal(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  The idea was that users can make a .planet.$something file in their
>  homedir on fedorapeople.org. Then we can have a separate planet run grab
>  up those files, compile them and use them. The code we have now can deal
>  with that, we just need to decide which ones are needed and set up
>  planet to know to grab them.
>
>  How about a .planet.pt_BR?
>
>  
+1
Make sence to me.

Regards

PS: Sorry Seth for the double reply.

-- 
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[Ian Weller]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, seth vidal wrote:

>  How about a .planet.pt_BR?
>  
How about a lang= variable in the existing .planet file? :)

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[Seth Vidal]

On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 11:52 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>  On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, seth vidal wrote:
>  
>  > How about a .planet.pt_BR?
>  >
>  
>  How about a lang= variable in the existing .planet file? :) 
doesn't work - many people post in mutliple languages and the point of
the .planet.something option is so we can have arbitrary aggregation,
not just language-based aggregation.

-sv

[Rodrigo Menezes]

seth vidal escreveu:
>  On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 11:52 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>    
> > How about a lang= variable in the existing .planet file? :)
> >     
>
>  doesn't work - many people post in mutliple languages and the point of
>  the .planet.something option is so we can have arbitrary aggregation,
>  not just language-based aggregation.
>
>  -sv
>     
In my opinion a .planet.pt_BR is the best choice, this way a user can 
add himself as a pt_BR, english, spanish, as we wants.

-- 
Att,

Rodrigo Menezes
Fedora Amabassador
Embaixador do Projeto Fedora
http://www.projetofedora.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoMenezes

[Karsten Wade]

On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:55 -0400, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  seth vidal escreveu:
>  > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 11:52 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>  >   
>  >> How about a lang= variable in the existing .planet file? :)
>  >>     
>  >
>  > doesn't work - many people post in mutliple languages and the point of
>  > the .planet.something option is so we can have arbitrary aggregation,
>  > not just language-based aggregation.
>  >
>  > -sv
>  >   
>  In my opinion a .planet.pt_BR is the best choice, this way a user can 
>  add himself as a pt_BR, english, spanish, as we wants. 
Also let's us do:

.planet.docs
.planet.ambassadors
.planet.art

etc.

Seth -- did you stop at the second dot?  Or did you include tertiary
filtering, e.g.:

.planet.ambassadors.en_US

???

- Karsten
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[Seth Vidal]

On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:27 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>  On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:55 -0400, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  > seth vidal escreveu:
>  > > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 11:52 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>  > >   
>  > >> How about a lang= variable in the existing .planet file? :)
>  > >>     
>  > >
>  > > doesn't work - many people post in mutliple languages and the point of
>  > > the .planet.something option is so we can have arbitrary aggregation,
>  > > not just language-based aggregation.
>  > >
>  > > -sv
>  > >   
>  > In my opinion a .planet.pt_BR is the best choice, this way a user can 
>  > add himself as a pt_BR, english, spanish, as we wants.
>  
>  Also let's us do:
>  
>  .planet.docs
>  .planet.ambassadors
>  .planet.art
>  
>  etc.
>  
>  Seth -- did you stop at the second dot?  Or did you include tertiary
>  filtering, e.g.:
>  
>  .planet.ambassadors.en_US
>   
the group is just anything that arbitrarily follows the .planet. Each
group has to be manually set up in the backend so going hog-wild doesn't
really help us. More to the point it takes a bit of time to generate
these feeds for each new one we have. So, segmenting it out to the nth
degree has a cost.

-sv

[Ian Weller]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:

>  Also let's us do:
>
>  .planet.docs
>  .planet.ambassadors
>  .planet.art
>
>  etc.
>
>  Seth -- did you stop at the second dot?  Or did you include tertiary
>  filtering, e.g.:
>
>  .planet.ambassadors.en_US
>  
This is going to get very messy very fast. We can just ln -s them to the
main .planet file if we want, right?

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[Rodrigo Menezes]

Ian Weller escreveu:
>  This is going to get very messy very fast. We can just ln -s them to
> the
>  main .planet file if we want, right?
>  
Any news about this request?

-- 
Att,

Rodrigo Menezes
Fedora Amabassador
Embaixador do Projeto Fedora
http://www.projetofedora.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoMenezes

[Seth Vidal]

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 19:42 -0400, Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  Ian Weller escreveu:
>  > This is going to get very messy very fast. We can just ln -s them to the
>  > main .planet file if we want, right?
>  >
>  Any news about this request? 
None, yet.

I was thinking about how to implement it better so it scales more nicely
with LOTS AND LOTS of subgroups and I had an idea. So, I've been
tinkering with the idea before taking it any further.

I'll keep you updated on it as I go.

thanks,
-sv