phishing from your servers

[Bruno Oriti]

http://www.atsiks.com/bvcu2/index.php

The above site is a phishing site and the owner is sending scam emails to
people. (I got one. Thank for for firefox.) Anyway, I hope you'll boot these
folks. They're trying to get people's credit card info by posing as a bank.

Thanks

[Matthias Clasen]

On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 07:50:44AM -0400, Bruno Oriti wrote:
> http://www.atsiks.com/bvcu2/index.php
>
> The above site is a phishing site and the owner is sending scam emails to
> people. (I got one. Thank for for firefox.) Anyway, I hope you'll boot these
> folks. They're trying to get people's credit card info by posing as a bank.

I assume that you're referring to the page at http://www.atsiks.com/
here.

That is a test page included with our operating system; we don't
actually control the site in question.  For more information, please
refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ServerTestPage.

In the future, it might be better to contact their ISP's abuse address,
which can be obtained through a whois lookup of their domain.

Thanks,
Ricky

[Matthias Clasen]

On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 07:50:44AM -0400, Bruno Oriti wrote:
> http://www.atsiks.com/bvcu2/index.php
>
> The above site is a phishing site and the owner is sending scam emails to
> people. (I got one. Thank for for firefox.) Anyway, I hope you'll boot these
> folks. They're trying to get people's credit card info by posing as a bank.

That is a test page included with our operating system; we don't
actually control the site in question.  For more information, please
refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ServerTestPage.

In the future, it might be better to contact their ISP's abuse address.
This information can be obtained through a whois lookup of their
domain.

Thanks,
Ricky

[Matthias Clasen]

Oops, I messed up the CC in that message- I just resent it.

Do any list admins still have an opinion about that Reply-to issue that
I mentioned a while ago :)?

Apologies for my carelessness,
Ricky

[Rahul Sundaram]

Ricky Zhou wrote:
> Oops, I messed up the CC in that message- I just resent it.
>
> Do any list admins still have an opinion about that Reply-to issue that
> I mentioned a while ago :)?
>
> Apologies for my carelessness,

I am a list admin but I don't bother with the administrative mails. 
Whatever works for the folks here is ok with me but I really would 
prefer we have a standard policy across mailing lists.

Rahul

[Matthias Clasen]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:06:40AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I am a list admin but I don't bother with the administrative mails. 
> Whatever works for the folks here is ok with me but I really would 
> prefer we have a standard policy across mailing lists.

I don't see why we need to limit ourselves to using the same settings as
other Fedora lists when there is a perfectly valid reason that making
this change would benefit the list.  As we've seen in the past, it's a
pain having to remember to CC the original sender on webmaster@fp.o
emails (which are usually from non-list subscribers).

The only visible change to list subscribers would be:
 * You would no longer need to CC the original sender in webmaster@fp.o
   emails :) or manually change the recipient when you want to reply to
   somebody off-list.
 * You must remember to Reply to All on list messages (this is already
   a standard requirement on default configured Mailman lists, I
   believe).

Thanks,
Ricky

[Thomas Chung]

On 8/27/07, Ricky Zhou  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:06:40AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I am a list admin but I don't bother with the administrative mails.
> > Whatever works for the folks here is ok with me but I really would
> > prefer we have a standard policy across mailing lists.
>
> I don't see why we need to limit ourselves to using the same settings as
> other Fedora lists when there is a perfectly valid reason that making
> this change would benefit the list.  As we've seen in the past, it's a
> pain having to remember to CC the original sender on webmaster@fp.o
> emails (which are usually from non-list subscribers).
>
> The only visible change to list subscribers would be:
> You would no longer need to CC the original sender in webmaster@fp.o
> emails :) or manually change the recipient when you want to reply to
> somebody off-list.
> You must remember to Reply to All on list messages (this is already
> a standard requirement on default configured Mailman lists, I
> believe).
>
> Thanks,
> Ricky

I guess you're suggesting to update following option in fedora-website-list.

"Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly
recommended for most mailing lists."
> From "This list" to "Poster".

I'm fine with that.  Although I'm not sure what will be consequence in
any other situations.
Regards,

[Rahul Sundaram]

Ricky Zhou wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:06:40AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I am a list admin but I don't bother with the administrative mails. 
> > Whatever works for the folks here is ok with me but I really would 
> > prefer we have a standard policy across mailing lists.
>
> I don't see why we need to limit ourselves to using the same settings as
> other Fedora lists when there is a perfectly valid reason that making
> this change would benefit the list.

That depends on the change. A difference in reply to settings can throw 
off people and making them send to the list instead of in private or 
vice versa. Since I am subscribed to nearly all of the Fedora lists, 
that's important to me.  Your proposal is fine by me if I understand it 
correctly.

Rahul