smooge is requesting some non-technical help with EPEL as a part of
Max's weekly wiki challenge. His plea copied below:
"I know it is late in the week, but I would love to get some help on the
EPEL page. I need basically a non-technical look at it. Does it
effectively tell what it needs to say? Does it need to be thrown out and
rewritten (ok with me.. I just need some direction and help)"
Is anybody from Docs up for doing this soonish? I would have the same
troubles smooge has right now with reworking the page, so I'm just
sending along his ask for help. :)
Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org>
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So we have two different styles of wiki under one space, which is
fine. Talking with Toshio today, I found myself reiterating a sort-of
unnofficial policy. Wondering if this makes sense, and can we start
doing more to make it clear.
There are two audiences for our wiki:
A - Contributors and participants, who use the wiki for process
documentation, drafts, policies, etc.
B - End-users, who use the wiki to learn how to do something in
Fedora. This category also includes the people who write how-to
We have never formally embraced the second group, and I think we can
There has been a loose, unofficial policy around all this for a while.
After Toshio brought up the challenge of when people use Talk: pages
for the first category, thereby splitting up the discussion, it seems
to make sense to make the policy a little more formal. Here is a
== Contributor-focused pages (A) ==
* Pages are draft until the page owning sub-project agrees it is not a
draft, then the draft header is removed.
- This means the actual page is used for drafting, including inline
comments, instead of using the Talk: pages. Inline comments are
removed as part of the no-longer-a-draft actions.
* Discussions of page content happen wherever the sub-project has all
its other discussions - mailing list, IRC, etc.
- Using Talk: pages here should be deprecated.
* These pages need an owner, best a group, who are responsible for
making sure to answer questions about it, update it, etc. There
should be a badge on the page that identifies the owner, which links
to a sub-section on the owner sub-project main page that explains
how they deal with questions about their wiki pages.
== End-user-focused pages (B) ==
* These pages should build on Wikipedia practices as much as possible.
- Refer to those practices in the "how to use our wiki for
documenting end-user content", which could be part of
- Have the [[Help:Editing]] page address this form of content, too.
* Encourage people in #fedora, users@, etc. to write and use these
* Discussions about the page content happen in the [discussion]
(Talk:) page. This is from the Wikipedia idea that each page is an
individual information node, and all discussion about that node
happens in the node.
* These pages are moved from draft to real using categores:
* [[Category:Draft documentation]]
* [[Category:How to]]
* [[Category:Topic documentation]] (e.g. Apache, SELinux, etc.)
* Others to be created
* People who want to work on end-user content need only look in the
draft category for what needs help.
== what next ==
* Badges for pages that link to the main owner sub-project or another
page that says what to do with pure content pages.
* One page write-up that says what to do when you find a page that you
want to comment, file a bug, or ask questions about.
* Warn sub-projects they need to own their pages with a badge.
* Template for sub-project pages that explains what they do about
their wiki pages.
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