Xen version for Fedora 13

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

Hello,

Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops dom0 kernel 
trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 4.0.0 anyway.

xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm

Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
for F13.

What do you guys think?

-- Pasi

[Bill Davidsen]

Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops dom0 kernel 
> trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 4.0.0 anyway.
>
> xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm

If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version. 
If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> for F13.
>
> What do you guys think?

Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3 
to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get 
added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty 
much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > 4.0.0 anyway.
> >
> > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
>
> If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > for F13.
> >
> > What do you guys think?
>
> Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.

Yeah, I agree.
Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..

Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?

-- Pasi

[Boris Derzhavets]

My major concern is Libvirt 0.7.1-15. Regardless virt-install still works fine
installing PV & HVM DomUs at Xen 4.0-rc7 (2.6.10 pvops) Dom0 on top of F12. "virsh create" ,with virsh  been compiled against Libvirt 0.7.1-15, fails to create new domain ( for OSOL 134 in particular). Seems like old Xen driver has to be updated.

Boris.

--- On Fri, 3/26/10, Pasi Kärkkäinen  wrote:

From: Pasi Kärkkäinen 
Subject: Re: [Fedora-xen] Xen version for Fedora 13
To: "Bill Davidsen" 
Cc: [e-mail], "M A Young" 
Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 8:35 AM

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > 4.0.0 anyway.
> >
> > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
>
> If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > for F13.
> >
> > What do you guys think?
>
> Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.

Yeah, I agree.
Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..

Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?

-- Pasi

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[M A Young]

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm

Now http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.6.rc8.fc12.src.rpm

Michael Young

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:35:00PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > > 4.0.0 anyway.
> > >
> > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
> >
> > If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> > If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > > for F13.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think?
> >
> > Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> > to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> > added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> > much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.
>
> Yeah, I agree.
> Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..
>
> Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?

Xen 4.0.0 has been released now.. so we definitely should update to it for F13.

-- Pasi

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:33:21AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:35:00PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > > > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > > > 4.0.0 anyway.
> > > >
> > > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
> > >
> > > If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> > > If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > > > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > > > for F13.
> > > >
> > > > What do you guys think?
> > >
> > > Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> > > to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> > > added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> > > much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.
> >
> > Yeah, I agree.
> > Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..
> >
> > Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?
>
> Xen 4.0.0 has been released now.. so we definitely should update to it for F13.

Michael's src.rpm is available here:
http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm

-- Pasi

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 03:53:44PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:33:21AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:35:00PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > > > > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > > > > 4.0.0 anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
> > > >
> > > > If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> > > > If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > > > > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > > > > for F13.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you guys think?
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> > > > to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> > > > added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> > > > much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I agree.
> > > Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..
> > >
> > > Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?
> >
> > Xen 4.0.0 has been released now.. so we definitely should update to it for F13.
>
> Michael's src.rpm is available here:
> http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm

Michael: Are you able to do uploads/builds to F13?

-- Pasi

[M A Young]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > Michael's src.rpm is available here:
> > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm
>
> Michael: Are you able to do uploads/builds to F13?

That SRPM will build on Fedora 13 as well as Fedora 12 (there is a 
warning about Prereq: which should I think be Requires(pre): but it still 
works).

Note that for an offical Fedora build going from 3.4.2 to 4.0.0 might be 
too big a step for Fedora 12 or 13, so we might get 3.4.3 once it appears, 
with the 4.0.0 line in Fedora 14.

Michael Young

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:55:15PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 03:53:44PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:33:21AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:35:00PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > > > > > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > > > > > 4.0.0 anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > > > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> > > > > If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > > > > > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > > > > > for F13.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you guys think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> > > > > to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> > > > > added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> > > > > much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I agree.
> > > > Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..
> > > >
> > > > Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?
> > >
> > > Xen 4.0.0 has been released now.. so we definitely should update to it for F13.
> >
> > Michael's src.rpm is available here:
> > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm
>
> Michael: Are you able to do uploads/builds to F13?

I'm re-sending this since I've had trouble with my email provider lately.. 
I think this email didn't get through.

-- Pasi

[itamar]

> > > Michael's src.rpm is available here:
> > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm

I think it can be build for devel (F-14)

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:43:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:55:15PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 03:53:44PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:33:21AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:35:00PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:20:49PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > > > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should we update Xen version to 4.0.0 (-rc7) for F13? All the new pvops 
> > > > > > > dom0 kernel trees require the new IOAPIC stuff from either Xen 3.4.3 or 
> > > > > > > 4.0.0 anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > xen-4.0.0-rc7 src.rpm from M A Young seems to work OK for me:
> > > > > > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.5.rc7.fc12.src.rpm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > If you don't update you are stuck with the problems in the old version.  
> > > > > > If you update now you have a path to a working version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Xen 4.0.0 is expected to get final soon, so we could then update the final release
> > > > > > > for F13.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you guys think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doesn't look like a hard choice here, the alternatives are patch 3.4.3  
> > > > > > to make it work right, or not get it in the release. I doubt it will get  
> > > > > > added if it isn't there to start, and patching obsolete code is pretty  
> > > > > > much a no-go, as well. Fedora is cutting edge, time to move.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I agree.
> > > > > Xen 4.0.0-rc8 is the latest release now, and it's supposed to be the last rc..
> > > > >
> > > > > Gerd: Would you like to update the Fedora xen rpm?
> > > >
> > > > Xen 4.0.0 has been released now.. so we definitely should update to it for F13.
> > >
> > > Michael's src.rpm is available here:
> > > http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/src/xen-4.0.0-0.7.fc12.src.rpm
> >
> > Michael: Are you able to do uploads/builds to F13?
>
> I'm re-sending this since I've had trouble with my email provider lately.. 
> I think this email didn't get through.

Hmm.. I wonder if all the people here have put me into some auto-dev-null filter.. :)

What do you think guys? It would still be a good idea to update xen rpms to 4.0.0 for F13,
since that's pretty much required for the latest 2.6.32+ pvops dom0 kernels..

-- Pasi

[M A Young]

On Fri, 7 May 2010, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Hmm.. I wonder if all the people here have put me into some auto-dev-null filter.. :)

I think you mail provider is on a spam blacklist. I got the following 
error on the last email I sent.

[e-mail] on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:15:13 +0100
     You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For
assistance, contact your system administrator.
     < seuraava.iki.fi #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client
host [212.16.98.52] blocked using new.spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Currently
Sending Spam See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?212.16.98.52%3E
> What do you think guys? It would still be a good idea to update xen rpms 
> to 4.0.0 for F13, since that's pretty much required for the latest 
> 2.6.32+ pvops dom0 kernels..

It might be more the Fedora way to build 3.4.3 with added patches (if any 
are necessary) to support pvops.

Michael Young

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 07:54:50PM +0100, M A Young wrote:
> On Fri, 7 May 2010, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > Hmm.. I wonder if all the people here have put me into some auto-dev-null filter.. :)
>
> I think you mail provider is on a spam blacklist. I got the following  
> error on the last email I sent.
>
> [e-mail] on Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:15:13 +0100
>     You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For
> assistance, contact your system administrator.
>     < seuraava.iki.fi #5.7.1 SMTP; 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client
> host [212.16.98.52] blocked using new.spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Currently
> Sending Spam See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?212.16.98.52%3E

Damn spam problems.. it should be fixed now, I believe (and hope).
Thanks for informing me about that.
> > What do you think guys? It would still be a good idea to update xen 
> > rpms to 4.0.0 for F13, since that's pretty much required for the latest 
> > 2.6.32+ pvops dom0 kernels..
>
> It might be more the Fedora way to build 3.4.3 with added patches (if any 
> are necessary) to support pvops.

Fedora has always been about latest and greatest, so it makes sense to 
update to latest upstream release (Xen 4.0.0), imho.

Btw just today there was discussion about Xen 3.4.3 and pvops dom0 support:
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2010-05/msg00278.html

It looks like 3.4.3 doesn't have some required patches (and might not get them)..
So that's one argument to go for 4.0.0 aswell, which already has everything needed.

-- Pasi