input on F10 virtualization release notes

[Dale Bewley]

I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10
these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the
know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and
Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.

I added a lot of content quickly yesterday, and the page structure
is by no means solid, but there is a pending freeze[2] on October
10th. I'd like to get it into the best and most accurate shape
possible before then. There will be a chance to make updates again
before the F10 release.

I've attempted to describe the improvements to virtualization-related
packages between the F9 release versions and the anticipated F10
versions. I've created a table[3] of those versions to help with the
comparison. I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know:

* if you believe a version bump is pending
* if I've left out any packages or features
* if I included something not noteworthy
* anything else you have to say

If you have any comments, contributions, or criticisms at all, please
add them to the wiki article/talk page/or email them to me.

Thanks! And keep up the great work! 

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization
[2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes

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[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
>  I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for
> Fedora 10
>  these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the
>  know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and
>  Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.
>  
Very good summary of changes.

I'm sure there will be a lot questions about (missing) dom0 support, so
maybe add even more information about it.

Xensource plans to have pv_ops dom0 support ready for Xen 3.4, so maybe add
that information. http://www.xen.org/download/roadmap.html

I think (at least earlier) the plan was to submit pv_ops dom0 patches for
inclusion in Linux kernel 2.6.28. I'm not sure if that is still the plan. 

pv_ops/dom0 patch queue:
http://xenbits.xen.org/paravirt_ops/patches.hg/
 
>  
>  I've attempted to describe the improvements to virtualization-related
>  packages between the F9 release versions and the anticipated F10
>  versions. I've created a table[3] of those versions to help with the
>  comparison. I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know:
>  
The table is really nice and gives nice overview of the changes made.
 
>  * if you believe a version bump is pending
>  * if I've left out any packages or features
>  * if I included something not noteworthy
>  * anything else you have to say
>  
>  If you have any comments, contributions, or criticisms at all, please
>  add them to the wiki article/talk page/or email them to me.
>   
-- Pasi

[libvirt] Re: input on F10 virtualization release notes

[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 06:11:03PM +0300, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
>  On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
>  > I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10
>  > these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the
>  > know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and
>  > Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.
>  >
>  
>  Very good summary of changes.
>  
>  I'm sure there will be a lot questions about (missing) dom0 support, so
>  maybe add even more information about it.
>  
>  Xensource plans to have pv_ops dom0 support ready for Xen 3.4, so maybe add
>  that information. http://www.xen.org/download/roadmap.html
>  
>  I think (at least earlier) the plan was to submit pv_ops dom0 patches for
>  inclusion in Linux kernel 2.6.28. I'm not sure if that is still the plan.  
That's premature for Fedora 10 release notes. It'll be shipping Xen 3.3
and 2.6.27. Should be good for Fedora 11 though

Daniel
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[libvirt] input on F10 virtualization release notes

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization
>  [2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
>  [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes 
Certainly looks good to me -- thanks for taking the time to do this.

You might want to mention virt-df in there (see my signature).
Although it has been backported to F-9, it is "new" in Fedora 10
because it didn't exist when F-9 started out.

Rich.

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software inside the virtual machine.  Supports Linux and Windows.
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[Karsten Wade]

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:55 -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:

>  
>  I added a lot of content quickly yesterday, and the page structure
>  is by no means solid, but there is a pending freeze[2] on October
>  10th.  
The actual freeze for wiki content is today.  The 10 Oct. deadline is
for when Docs have to get the converted-to-XML content ready for
translation.

Sorry about any confusion on the schedule, things such as the labeling
of tasks are a bit of a work in progress.

- Karsten
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