Fedora 10 Release and Virtualization News

[Dale Bewley]

Sorry for the annoying cross post.

The next Fedora Weekly News[1] will be published Monday, one day before
the release of Fedora 10. I would like dedicate a special section of the
Virtualization Beat[2] to touting the advances and new features in F10.

As with the release notes[3], I am seeking your input. (A little late, I
know.) I'm interested not only in the new virtualization features and
breakthroughs found in the F10 release, but also any updates that might
be right around the corner in f10-updates.

Perhaps you have some special insight into the upstream progress of
pv_ops, or maybe you know about a almost complete implementation of a
libvirt API feature into virt-manager or...

I'm sorry if this is a little scattershot. For sometime, I've considered
trying to present questions in interview style to each of these lists,
but I just haven't gotten that together.

The publication deadline is Sunday night, but I'll be able to use
anything in the next edition of FWN. Please contribute, even if you read
this on Monday.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Virtualization
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization

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[fcxen user]

Hi,

Dale, great stuff. This question is a little late for your release, but I know 
it will be coming up alot soon, so I hope you can add it to your docs:

Is it possible to run a Fedora 10 pv domU on a Fedora 8 dom0 ?
And if it is, what steps are necessary to be able to install the F10 domU with 
virt-install and manage it with xm/virsh/etc that differ from what is required 
to do the same for F7/8/9,etc domUs?

With the standard yum package: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8
one gets:
ValueError: Invalid URL location given: 
http://mirror.x.y/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/xe... 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found

when trying to install a Fedora 10 domU due to the integration of the Xen 
kernel with the normal kernel and virt-install not knowing where to get the 
kernel. (AFAIK)

Also, as the December EOL for Fedora 8 gets closer, people will have more 
questions about their options for dom0s - maybe people could submit pros and 
cons for each option and it could be added to the wiki (maybe as a 
table/matrix) - so that there is one place to refer people to when the 
questions arise.

Thanks.

Dale Bewley wrote:
>  Sorry for the annoying cross post.
>  
>  The next Fedora Weekly News[1] will be published Monday, one day before
>  the release of Fedora 10. I would like dedicate a special section of the
>  Virtualization Beat[2] to touting the advances and new features in F10.
>  
>  As with the release notes[3], I am seeking your input. (A little late, I
>  know.) I'm interested not only in the new virtualization features and
>  breakthroughs found in the F10 release, but also any updates that might
>  be right around the corner in f10-updates.
>  
>  Perhaps you have some special insight into the upstream progress of
>  pv_ops, or maybe you know about a almost complete implementation of a
>  libvirt API feature into virt-manager or...
>  
>  I'm sorry if this is a little scattershot. For sometime, I've considered
>  trying to present questions in interview style to each of these lists,
>  but I just haven't gotten that together.
>  
>  The publication deadline is Sunday night, but I'll be able to use
>  anything in the next edition of FWN. Please contribute, even if you read
>  this on Monday.
>  
>  [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN
>  [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Virtualization
>  [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization
>  
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[Franz Von Hahn]

Hey!

You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a kernel-xen package
2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried F10 so far since i'm acutally
downloading the iso image of F10 which takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you
know ;)

Combinations known to work:

Dom0:
kernel-xen-2.6.21 from Fedora 8
--- or ---
kernel-xen-2.6.18 from CentOS 5.2

DomU:
Fedora 6
Fedora 7
Fedora 8
Fedora 9
CentOS 5.2






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Hi,

Dale, great stuff. This question is a little late for your release, but I know it will be
coming up alot soon, so I hope you can add it to your docs:

Is it possible to run a Fedora 10 pv domU on a Fedora 8 dom0 ?
And if it is, what steps are necessary to be able to install the F10 domU with
virt-install and manage it with xm/virsh/etc that differ from what is required to do the
same for F7/8/9,etc domUs?

With the standard yum package: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8
one gets:
ValueError: Invalid URL location given:
http://mirror.x.y/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/xe... [Errno
14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found

when trying to install a Fedora 10 domU due to the integration of the Xen kernel with the
normal kernel and virt-install not knowing where to get the kernel. (AFAIK)

Also, as the December EOL for Fedora 8 gets closer, people will have more questions about
their options for dom0s - maybe people could submit pros and cons for each option and it
could be added to the wiki (maybe as a table/matrix) - so that there is one place to refer
people to when the questions arise.

Thanks.

Dale Bewley wrote:
>  Sorry for the annoying cross post.
>  
>  The next Fedora Weekly News[1] will be published Monday, one day before
>  the release of Fedora 10. I would like dedicate a special section of the
>  Virtualization Beat[2] to touting the advances and new features in F10.
>  
>  As with the release notes[3], I am seeking your input. (A little late, I
>  know.) I'm interested not only in the new virtualization features and
>  breakthroughs found in the F10 release, but also any updates that might
>  be right around the corner in f10-updates.
>  
>  Perhaps you have some special insight into the upstream progress of
>  pv_ops, or maybe you know about a almost complete implementation of a
>  libvirt API feature into virt-manager or...
>  
>  I'm sorry if this is a little scattershot. For sometime, I've considered
>  trying to present questions in interview style to each of these lists,
>  but I just haven't gotten that together.
>  
>  The publication deadline is Sunday night, but I'll be able to use
>  anything in the next edition of FWN. Please contribute, even if you read
>  this on Monday.
>  
>  [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN
>  [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Virtualization
>  [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization
>  
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[M A Young]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:

>  You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
>  kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried 
>  F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which 
>  takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;) 
I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 
beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available until after 
Fedora 8 has EOLed.

 	Michael Young

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[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
>  On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
>  
>  >You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
>  >kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried 
>  >F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which 
>  >takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
>  
>  I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 
>  beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available until after 
>  Fedora 8 has EOLed.
>   
Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
to handle/install F10 guests.. 

RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.

http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585

If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 dom0..
it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
bugzilla link above.

RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html

contains:
python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5

-- Pasi

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[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
>  > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
>  > 
>  > >You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
>  > >kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried 
>  > >F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which 
>  > >takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
>  > 
>  > I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 
>  > beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available until after 
>  > Fedora 8 has EOLed.
>  > 
>  
>  Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
>  to handle/install F10 guests.. 
>  
>  RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
>  It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
>  
>  http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
>  
>  If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
>  python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 dom0..
>  it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
>  bugzilla link above.
>  
>  RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
>  
>  contains:
>  python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
>   
Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc:

"RHEL5.3 xen: include support for booting Fedora 10 DomU (i.e. bzImage
support)":
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457199

-- Pasi

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[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:38:29PM +0200, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
>  On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
>  > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > >You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
>  > > >kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried 
>  > > >F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which 
>  > > >takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
>  > > 
>  > > I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 
>  > > beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available until after 
>  > > Fedora 8 has EOLed.
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
>  > to handle/install F10 guests.. 
>  > 
>  > RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
>  > It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
>  > 
>  > http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
>  > 
>  > If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
>  > python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 dom0..
>  > it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
>  > bugzilla link above.
>  > 
>  > RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
>  > https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
>  > 
>  > contains:
>  > python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
>  > 
>  
>  Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc: 
Yes, that is correct - RHEL-5.2 Xen doesn't understand the new bzImage
style kernels. 

Daniel
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[fcxen user]

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>  On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:38:29PM +0200, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
> >>>> kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried
>
> >>>> F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which
>
> >>>> takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
> >>> I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 
> >>> beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available until after 
> >>> Fedora 8 has EOLed.
> >>>
> >> Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
> >> to handle/install F10 guests.. 
> >>
> >> RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
> >> It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
> >>
> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
> >>
> >> If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
> >> python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 dom0..
> >> it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
> >> bugzilla link above.
> >>
> >> RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
> >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
> >>
> >> contains:
> >> python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
> >>
> > Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc:
>  
>  Yes, that is correct - RHEL-5.2 Xen doesn't understand the new bzImage
>  style kernels. 
>  
>  Daniel 
So is there any way to get F10 domU running on F8 dom0 ?

I don't want to have to downgrade all my dom0s to RHEL or CentOS ...

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[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:29:19AM -0800, fcxen user wrote:
>  Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>  >On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:38:29PM +0200, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
>  >>On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  >>>On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
>  >>>>On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>>You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a 
>  >>>>>kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i haven't
> tried 
>  >>>>>F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10
> which 
>  >>>>>takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
>  >>>>I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as 
>  >>>>RHEL5.3 beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available
> until 
>  >>>>after Fedora 8 has EOLed.
>  >>>>
>  >>>Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
>  >>>to handle/install F10 guests.. 
>  >>>
>  >>>RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
>  >>>It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
>  >>>
>  >>>http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
>  >>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
>  >>>
>  >>>If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
>  >>>python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 
>  >>>dom0..
>  >>>it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
>  >>>bugzilla link above.
>  >>>
>  >>>RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
>  >>>https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
>  >>>
>  >>>contains:
>  >>>python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
>  >>>
>  >>Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc:
>  >
>  >Yes, that is correct - RHEL-5.2 Xen doesn't understand the new bzImage
>  >style kernels. 
>  >
>  >Daniel
>  
>  So is there any way to get F10 domU running on F8 dom0 ?
>  
>  I don't want to have to downgrade all my dom0s to RHEL or CentOS ...
>   
Based on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457199
"And we're including that patch now in F-8, F-9 and F-10" libxc bzImage
support should be fine in Fedora 8 (with all the updates installed).

Then there's the problem with python-virtinst.. 

I guess python-virtinst in Fedora 8 cannot handle F10 guests? 

Latest version in F8 updates seems to be: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8 

Which looks too old to support F10 guests..

So maybe you have to update python-virtinst in F8 and then try again? 

-- Pasi

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[Cole Robinson]

Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:29:19AM -0800, fcxen user wrote:
> > Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:38:29PM +0200, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with
> a 
> >>>>>> kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i
> haven't tried 
> >>>>>> F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of
> F10 which 
> >>>>>> takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
> >>>>> I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as 
> >>>>> RHEL5.3 beta has only just appeared, probably won't be available
> until 
> >>>>> after Fedora 8 has EOLed.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old python-virtinst
> >>>> to handle/install F10 guests.. 
> >>>>
> >>>> RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10 guests. 
> >>>> It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
> >>>>
> >>>> If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with installing
> >>>> python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS 5.2 
> >>>> dom0..
> >>>> it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check that
> >>>> bugzilla link above.
> >>>>
> >>>> RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
> >>>>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
> >>>>
> >>>> contains:
> >>>> python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
> >>>>
> >>> Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc:
> >> Yes, that is correct - RHEL-5.2 Xen doesn't understand the new bzImage
> >> style kernels. 
> >>
> >> Daniel
> > So is there any way to get F10 domU running on F8 dom0 ?
> >
> > I don't want to have to downgrade all my dom0s to RHEL or CentOS ...
> >
>  
>  Based on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457199
>  "And we're including that patch now in F-8, F-9 and F-10" libxc bzImage
>  support should be fine in Fedora 8 (with all the updates installed).
>  
>  Then there's the problem with python-virtinst.. 
>  
>  I guess python-virtinst in Fedora 8 cannot handle F10 guests? 
>  
>  Latest version in F8 updates seems to be: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8 
>  
>  Which looks too old to support F10 guests..
>  
>  So maybe you have to update python-virtinst in F8 and then try again?  
I posted this elsewhere in the thread, but just yesterday I built a new
F8 virtinst which should allow installing F10 xen guests:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=71125
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458164

It should be in updates testing now. Give it a +1 in bodhi if it works
for you, and the package will eventually make it to the plain updates repo:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-10394

Thanks,
Cole

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[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 09:54:13AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote:
>  Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:29:19AM -0800, fcxen user wrote:
>  >> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>  >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:38:29PM +0200, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
>  >>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  >>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06:36AM +0000, M A Young wrote:
>  >>>>>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped
> with a 
>  >>>>>>> kernel-xen package 2.6.18.x. It works fine for me but i
> haven't tried 
>  >>>>>>> F10 so far since i'm acutally downloading the iso image
> of F10 which 
>  >>>>>>> takes a long time when using a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;)
>  >>>>>> I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which,
> as 
>  >>>>>> RHEL5.3 beta has only just appeared, probably won't be
> available until 
>  >>>>>> after Fedora 8 has EOLed.
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>> Yeah.. I believe RHEL 5.2 and CentOS 5.2 has too old
> python-virtinst
>  >>>>> to handle/install F10 guests.. 
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> RHEL 5.3 will contain updated python-virtinst that supports F10
> guests. 
>  >>>>> It is already included in RHEL 5.3 beta.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-rawhide-domU-on-RHEL5.2-dom0--p19833725.html
>  >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> If you can't try RHEL 5.3 beta dom0, you could try with
> installing
>  >>>>> python-virtinst-0.300.2-10.el5 or newer to your RHEL 5.2 / CentOS
> 5.2 
>  >>>>> dom0..
>  >>>>> it should add support for F10 domUs. For more information check
> that
>  >>>>> bugzilla link above.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> RHEL 5.3 beta announcement:
>  >>>>>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg00000.html
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> contains:
>  >>>>> python-virtinst-0.300.2-11.el5
>  >>>>>
>  >>>> Oh, and it seems you also need newer libxc:
>  >>> Yes, that is correct - RHEL-5.2 Xen doesn't understand the new bzImage
>  >>> style kernels. 
>  >>>
>  >>> Daniel
>  >> So is there any way to get F10 domU running on F8 dom0 ?
>  >>
>  >> I don't want to have to downgrade all my dom0s to RHEL or CentOS ...
>  >>
>  > 
>  > Based on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457199
>  > "And we're including that patch now in F-8, F-9 and F-10" libxc
> bzImage
>  > support should be fine in Fedora 8 (with all the updates installed).
>  > 
>  > Then there's the problem with python-virtinst.. 
>  > 
>  > I guess python-virtinst in Fedora 8 cannot handle F10 guests? 
>  > 
>  > Latest version in F8 updates seems to be: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8 
>  > 
>  > Which looks too old to support F10 guests..
>  > 
>  > So maybe you have to update python-virtinst in F8 and then try again? 
>  
>  I posted this elsewhere in the thread, but just yesterday I built a new
>  F8 virtinst which should allow installing F10 xen guests:
>  
>  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=71125
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458164
>  
>  It should be in updates testing now. Give it a +1 in bodhi if it works
>  for you, and the package will eventually make it to the plain updates repo:
>  
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-10394
>   
Thanks for the links.

I think it would be a good idea to add a note to F10 release notes that if
you want to use Fedora 8 as dom0 to run F10 guests, you need to have all the
latest updates installed to your F8 dom0, plus you need to have that
python-virtinst-0.300.2-5.fc8.noarch.rpm from updates-testing.

-- Pasi

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[Dale Bewley]

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 18:45 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>  
>  I think it would be a good idea to add a note to F10 release notes
>  that if
>  you want to use Fedora 8 as dom0 to run F10 guests, you need to have
>  all the
>  latest updates installed to your F8 dom0, plus you need to have that
>  python-virtinst-0.300.2-5.fc8.noarch.rpm from updates-testing.
>  
>  -- Pasi 
I tossed it on the common bugs page
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F10_bugs

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[Franz Von Hahn]

AFAIK (!) CentOS 5.2 updates will be available until the EOL of RHEL 5 which is March 31
2014.

I haven't tried to update a Fedora 9 domU to F10 on a CentOS 5.2 host since an
online-update from Fedora 8 to F9 failed the last time. even root couldn't read his
own home directory. Fortunately a backup of the filesystem image was created beforehand.





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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Franz Von Hahn wrote:

>  You could propably use CentOS 5.2 als a dom0. It is shipped with a
> kernel-xen package 2.6.18..x. It works fine for me but i haven't tried F10 so far
> since i'm acutally downloading the iso image of F10 which takes a long time when using
> a 1024kpb/s line, you know ;) 
I believe you need Centos 5.3 for F10 xen guest clients which, as RHEL5.3 beta has only
just appeared, probably won't be available until after Fedora 8 has EOLed.

    Michael Young

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[Cole Robinson]

fcxen user wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Dale, great stuff. This question is a little late for your release, but I know 
>  it will be coming up alot soon, so I hope you can add it to your docs:
>  
>  Is it possible to run a Fedora 10 pv domU on a Fedora 8 dom0 ?
>  And if it is, what steps are necessary to be able to install the F10 domU with 
>  virt-install and manage it with xm/virsh/etc that differ from what is required 
>  to do the same for F7/8/9,etc domUs?
>  
>  With the standard yum package: python-virtinst-0.300.2-4.fc8
>  one gets:
>  ValueError: Invalid URL location given: 
>  http://mirror.x.y/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/xe... 
>  [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
>  
That version of virt-install doesn't know how to find the xen
kernel in F10 install trees:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458164

I built a fixed package for this yesterday though, which should
now be in updates-testing:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=71125

So give that a shot and see if it works for you.

Thanks,
Cole