Hi, we've successfully removed Python 2 from default Workstation installation
years ago, today I'd like to see if we could do it in Xfce Spin as well.
For those not in the picture: Python 2 ill EOL in 11 months, 22 days .
We are trying to get rid of it as much as possible in Fedora .
Eliminating Python 2 from our defualt installations is an important step here.
Today, if I try to uninstall python2 from Xfce spin (rawhide), this is what gets
removed as dependent:
Several others go as no longer needed, mostly python2 libs, but also:
While I doubt the actual usefulness of gnumeric, what bothers me is:
1. It seems that the Bluetooth stack is entirely gone. Do we have an viable
2. If openconnect is not needed on Workstation, why is it needed in Xfce?
3. Can we set keyboards/users with some alternatives? system-config-* still link
to fedorahosted as upstream and haven't received an update in years. They seem
pretty upstream dead to me.
4. Catfish is Python 3 compatible, but the Fedora maintainer is not .
Thanks for tips.
I think that my xfce4-terminal dropdown started to act weirdly.
1. drop down (by a keyboard shortcut)
2. move to a different workspace (by a keyboard shortcut)
Before: the drop down terminal "stays with you"
Now: the drop down terminal stays on previous workspace, invoking the drop down
keyboard shortcut does nothing, you need to go back to the previous worksapce,
roll up, move to a new workspace, drop down.
Has anybody noticed similar behavior change? Is it a regression or is this
First off "about-xfce" is a joke. It is still showing 4.12
and does not give the revisions of the sub-components.
A completely useless piece of code.
So wanting to try out 4.14 ...
# dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing \*xf\* thunar\* tumbler exo
Nothing to do.
And not a 4.14 in sight!
$ rpm -qa xfce\*
What the heck???
Is there some way to do this? ATM, eg, clicking on a Panel button for
Chrome shows me a list of the various windows I have open and a label
for each window determined by which tab is active in that particular
window - this is OK for a small number of windows but inefficient for a
big project when I have a dozen windows with a dozen tabs in each window
with very similar things in the tabs - I would like a FIXED description
for each window - irrespective of which tab is active in that window eg:
Window 1 ACT
Window 2 NSW
Window 3 NT
Window 4 Queensland
Window 5 SA
Window 6 Tasmania
Window 7 WA
Is this possible?
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In case Fedora xfce users are not aware, 4.14pre1 was officially
In Fedora 30 testing repositories, you can find updates available for
almost all of these packages (exo is already in stable).
I will keep these packages in testing for an extended period (autopush
is disabled). Please test and add karma on bodhi. Please file bug
reports as needed - either upstream or on fedora/RH bugzilla.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre1 released
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:15:48 +0200
From: Simon Steinbeiss <simon(a)xfce.org>
Xfce 4.14pre1 is now available for download.
It includes the following releases of Xfce core components:
Individual tarballs are available for download now:
A tarball including all individual releases can be downloaded here:
Release notes for 4.14pre1
Xfce-announce mailing list
Your email sounds a bit harsh... I think Fedora is doing a great job
at packaging xfce! 
The "xfce4-about" is just a simple tool provided with the libxfce4ui
package, but it actually takes the version from
`xfce_version_string()` which is defined in libxfce4util.
And it happens that upstream still has that string set to "4.12",
better file a bug upstream, but calling it a "useless piece of code"
is unlikely to give you the traction you ask for.
As for the package list you posted, xfce is made of different modules
which have different versions, not all packages follow the same
scheme. Actually, 4.13.x is 4.14-pre-something, so it looks to me you
do have a pre-version of 4.14 installed. Of course, one important
piece of the puzzle (xfwm4) is missing in your list because you
queried "xfce*" which excludes xfwm4...
 Granted, I am biased.