On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:56:14PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Montag, den 24.01.2011, 14:45 +0100 schrieb Nick Schermer:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Christoph Wickert
> <christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday XZ compression hit rawhide and the nightly spins dropped from
> > ~694 MB (i686) / 695 MB (x86_64) to 567 / 568 MB.
> >
> > Now the question is: What are we going to do with this space? What would
> > you like to see in the F15 Xfce spin?
> >
> > Some suggestions:
> > * libreoffice, at least writer, calc and impress
> > * gnumeric again (if we don't do libreoffice)
> > * more remmina-plugins: ATM we only have ssh, rdp and vnc, but
> > xdmcp, telepathy and nx are available, too
> > * more development stuff, e.g. meld and more geany-plugins
> > * games, e.g. gnome-games?
> >
> > More ideas?
>
> Keep it small so it is more obvious Xfce is lightweight ;-). S
This is indeed something we should consider. People keep asking for
Open/Libreoffice or for Thunderbird instead of Claws, but these apps are
not that lightweight any longer.
On the other hand we will have plenty of GNOME refugees with Fedora 15
and should think about serving them, too, but without giving up the
prime directive of being lightweight.
I agree, I think that with the introduction of Fedora 15 and Gnome3
there will be a heavy population that is "split" into "we <3
gnome-shell" and "we don't <3 gnome-shell" and I think with the
introduction and enhancements of Xfce 4.8 that now is a perfect time to
showcase the Xfce Spin as an alternative for those users in the latter
group.
While I agree with the idea of keeping things light, I think going the
route of LibreOffice wouldn't be a horrible idea but something that we'd
need to consider and maybe run some test on to see how much performance
is impacted (especially on older machines and/or netbooks). I feel that
currently there are two kinds of people who use the Xfce Spin, those who
know what Xfce is and just prefer it and those who use it to save system
resources on older machines and/or netbooks. I think members of both
groups are likely to desire defaults that are as light weight as
possible. So I suppose to wrap it up my question(s) is/are this: at what
point are we willing to trade light weight for full featured? where's
the line? is there a middle ground?
Just some thoughts, I personally have machines with and without
Open/LibreOffice on them now just because there are some where its
overkill and I'm not particularly heavily for or against its inclusion
in the Xfce Spin for Fedora 15 but wanted to bring up a few points for
discussion.
-AdamM