Hi. xfce4-mixer 4.10 wasn't giving me a choice to use the 'default' card (pulseaudio). It used to in F17. I even downgraded to v. 4.8 but it just shows the alsa card. Of course even alsamixer shows the default pulseaudio card and pnmixer too.
I don't understand about this but it seems xfce4-mixer is a gstreamer thing and maybe isn't supposed to work like alsamixer. I have just the basics for gstreamer as I use vlc/deadbeef which don't need it so it's here mostly because of webkitgtk, qt-config etc., these unrelated stuff.
$ yum list installed *gstreamer* gstreamer.i686 0.10.36-2.fc18 @fedora
gstreamer-plugins-base.i686 0.10.36-3.fc18 @fedora
gstreamer-tools.i686 0.10.36-2.fc18 @fedora
gstreamer1.i686 1.0.2-1.fc18 @updates-testing gstreamer1-plugins-base.i686 1.0.2-1.fc18 @updates-testing
It still looks like there's some bug somewhere as xfce4-mixer should detect the default card.
Thoughts?
Hi Sergio,
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:25:44 -0200 Sergio wrote:
Hi. xfce4-mixer 4.10 wasn't giving me a choice to use the 'default' card (pulseaudio). It used to in F17. I even downgraded to v. 4.8 but it just shows the alsa card. Of course even alsamixer shows the default pulseaudio card and pnmixer too.
It never had the option to use 'default' card as long as I remember. And recently the panel applet also seem to have dropped the option to start pavucontrol on click (or I'm blind) so I had to drop it in favour of the ugly gnome volume applet which is currently the only option that works without issues with external usb audio card even after suspend: first of all the default audio card gets reset to the internal one (so I need quick access to PA settings to change the default) after suspend and second, xfce4-mixer applet is not able to change volume of the external audio card after suspend.
It still looks like there's some bug somewhere as xfce4-mixer should detect the default card.
More like a missing feature than bug, I think.
Martin
On 11/13/2012 07:24 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi Sergio,
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:25:44 -0200 Sergio wrote:
Hi. xfce4-mixer 4.10 wasn't giving me a choice to use the 'default' card (pulseaudio). It used to in F17. I even downgraded to v. 4.8 but it just shows the alsa card. Of course even alsamixer shows the default pulseaudio card and pnmixer too.
It never had the option to use 'default' card as long as I remember.
I'm sure it had (not that it was a reliable thing, as for you it already didn't give that option). Even xfce4-mixer itself could choose between both (just like alsamixer). Yesterday I was messing with my Xfce settings when after deleting some stuff I tried to reset the mixer applet to use the 'default' and it just showed the internal card. IDK if it's a gstreamer thing or whatever. I did remove some unused gstreamer packages I had after upgrading from F17 to F18 but they were just plugins, I think. Anyway, I'm using pnmixer.
And recently the panel applet also seem to have dropped the option to start pavucontrol on click (or I'm blind)...
Settings>Settings Editor, browser to xfce4-panel and change the call for xfce4-mixer for pavucontrol (or whatever you want).
It still looks like there's some bug somewhere as xfce4-mixer should detect the default card.
More like a missing feature than bug, I think.
I'm not sure, because the author doesn't like pulseaudio. He said it doesn't play well with gstreamer in the distro he uses (Debian?).
On 13 November 2012 19:40, Sergio secipolla@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/13/2012 07:24 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi Sergio,
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:25:44 -0200 Sergio wrote:
Hi. xfce4-mixer 4.10 wasn't giving me a choice to use the 'default' card (pulseaudio). It used to in F17. I even downgraded to v. 4.8 but it just shows the alsa card. Of course even alsamixer shows the default pulseaudio card and pnmixer too.
It never had the option to use 'default' card as long as I remember.
I'm sure it had (not that it was a reliable thing, as for you it already didn't give that option). Even xfce4-mixer itself could choose between both (just like alsamixer). Yesterday I was messing with my Xfce settings when after deleting some stuff I tried to reset the mixer applet to use the 'default' and it just showed the internal card. IDK if it's a gstreamer thing or whatever. I did remove some unused gstreamer packages I had after upgrading from F17 to F18 but they were just plugins, I think. Anyway, I'm using pnmixer.
Here's Beta TC9 Xfce spin live-cd in the same machine: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11162012-021015pm.php
Then I copied xfce4-mixer.xml and xfce4-panel.xml to my installed system (after clearing the session JIC) but when opened they rewrote the configs without the pulseaudio options (all three).
I compared ~/.gstreamer-0.10/registry.i686.bin on the live-cd and in my installed F18. The first is 567K big and the latter is 97K big.
As I said before I removed all un-needed gstreamer packages here and I suspect maybe one of them is required by xfce4-mixer to see pulseaudio. But it could be some upgrade that broke it too as the spin has pretty old packages (for F18).
Unfortunately I forgot to list all gstreamer packages shipped with the live-cd.
Switching topic, as seen on the linked screen-shot the partitions are listed twice on the desktop. The bug report I opened for that back in TC2 or TC3 was closed because fixed IIRC in udisks2. Can't the udisks2 package (and maybe gvfs and maybe all the rest?) be updated on the spin? lightdm has been, right?
Confirmed the xfce4-mixer dependency issue. I installed gstreamer-plugins-good/bad/ugly (and dependencies), then installed and launched parole only for it to update the gstreamer registry and now mixer sees pulseaudio: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11162012-062434pm.php
So when I track down which package is required xfce4-mixer dependencies need to be updated.
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Martin Sourada -
Sergio Cipolla