List, good afternoon,
Because we have only a slow Internet connection, and are capacity limited, we don't have a recent spin on which we could check whether there is an https server present or running. We have some older spins, and these do not have any service running on localhost:80. One reason for wondering whether there was an http server present is that we were thinking of using a live spin on a spare laptop to create a temporary web-server, for example at an offsite event, or even in our own network for temporarily serving whatever content.
Is an http server included on the current spin? If so, can it also provide https service, even if using a temporary self-signed certificate?
Grateful for any information,
regards, Ron
On 06/09/2015 05:26 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
List, good afternoon,
Because we have only a slow Internet connection, and are capacity limited, we don't have a recent spin on which we could check whether there is an https server present or running. We have some older spins, and these do not have any service running on localhost:80. One reason for wondering whether there was an http server present is that we were thinking of using a live spin on a spare laptop to create a temporary web-server, for example at an offsite event, or even in our own network for temporarily serving whatever content.
Is an http server included on the current spin? If so, can it also provide https service, even if using a temporary self-signed certificate?
Grateful for any information,
regards, Ron
Hi Ron,
Not seeing one on 127.0.0.1:80 with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso You could always do a direct install to a USB stick and do a dnf (yum) to install the http server. That way, it won't be volatile, like a live DVD.
Currently, the above iso will not correctly install to a flash drive, but the gnome one from Fedora will. Then do an "dnf groupinstall xfce" to get Xfce. (Gnome has gotten really, really W-I-E-R-D.)
HTH, -T
On 09/06/2015 19:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 05:26 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
Is an http server included on the current spin? If so, can it also provide https service, even if using a temporary self-signed certificate?
You could always do a direct install to a USB stick and do a dnf (yum) to install the http server. That way, it won't be volatile, like a live DVD.
Todd, that's interesting. I don't quite follow.
What do you mean by a 'direct install' to a USB stick? Do you mean install Fedora, but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive /dev/sda1 or whatever? And then, presumably, boot from USB as needed.
Would such an 'installation' then also run on a completely different laptop, with different network card, graphics, etc?
I wondered whether you meant put the iso on a USB stick and use that instead of a DVD but still run the USB stick as a 'live' sort of system. In this latter case, then the stick could be run in a variety of laptops/desktops, in the same way that a live CD can be run, because it loads the appropriate drivers etc for whatever hardware it finds.
If you meant a full install but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive, then I guess installing an http server onto that USB installation is just like installing it onto a normal hard drive, and once installed it's always there (of course).
It's certainly a thought. Thanks.
Ron
On 06/09/2015 11:23 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
On 09/06/2015 19:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 05:26 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
Is an http server included on the current spin? If so, can it also provide https service, even if using a temporary self-signed certificate?
You could always do a direct install to a USB stick and do a dnf (yum) to install the http server. That way, it won't be volatile, like a live DVD.
Todd, that's interesting. I don't quite follow.
What do you mean by a 'direct install' to a USB stick? Do you mean install Fedora, but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive /dev/sda1 or whatever? And then, presumably, boot from USB as needed.
Yes
Would such an 'installation' then also run on a completely different laptop, with different network card, graphics, etc?
Yes, especially if you change the root= line in grub.cfg to root=UUID=xxx. This is the default with the gnome live, but not the Xfce live.
Also, from my notes:
AFTER the first suscessful boot, to force the stick to scan for new hardware on each boot, edit dracut: /usr/lib/dracut/dracut.conf.d/01-dist.conf hostonly="no"
And to keep dracut updates from overwriting the above line into /etc/dracut.conf.d/01-custom.conf
I wondered whether you meant put the iso on a USB stick and use that instead of a DVD but still run the USB stick as a 'live' sort of system.
You boot off the the Live DVD, then install to your flash drive.
In this latter case, then the stick could be run in a variety of laptops/desktops, in the same way that a live CD can be run, because it loads the appropriate drivers etc for whatever hardware it finds.
Yes
If you meant a full install but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive, then I guess installing an http server onto that USB installation is just like installing it onto a normal hard drive, and once installed it's always there (of course).
You don't get the http server when installing from the Live DVD, but you can easily install it later. Cherry it out the way you want.
With this, you can set it up the way you like and then use it as you wish in other machines. I have a trouble shooting stick I use for just that purpose. Test hard drives, remove Windows passwords, partition drives, remove GPT partitions, scan for all MAC address (busts folks who take their own router to work to get Wi Fi on their phones), etc..
Be sure to set the screen saver to Bouncing Cows, so the Windows user can see what they are missing!
-T
It's certainly a thought. Thanks.
Ron _______________________________________________ xfce mailing list xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 11:23 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
On 09/06/2015 19:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 05:26 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
Is an http server included on the current spin? If so, can it also provide https service, even if using a temporary self-signed certificate?
You could always do a direct install to a USB stick and do a dnf (yum) to install the http server. That way, it won't be volatile, like a live DVD.
Todd, that's interesting. I don't quite follow.
What do you mean by a 'direct install' to a USB stick? Do you mean install Fedora, but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive /dev/sda1 or whatever? And then, presumably, boot from USB as needed.
Yes
Would such an 'installation' then also run on a completely different laptop, with different network card, graphics, etc?
Yes, especially if you change the root= line in grub.cfg to root=UUID=xxx. This is the default with the gnome live, but not the Xfce live.
Also, from my notes:
AFTER the first suscessful boot, to force the stick to scan for new hardware on each boot, edit dracut: /usr/lib/dracut/dracut.conf.d/01-dist.conf hostonly="no"
And to keep dracut updates from overwriting the above line into /etc/dracut.conf.d/01-custom.confI wondered whether you meant put the iso on a USB stick and use that instead of a DVD but still run the USB stick as a 'live' sort of system.
You boot off the the Live DVD, then install to your flash drive.
In this latter case, then the stick could be run in a variety of laptops/desktops, in the same way that a live CD can be run, because it loads the appropriate drivers etc for whatever hardware it finds.
Yes
If you meant a full install but onto a USB stick instead of onto a hard drive, then I guess installing an http server onto that USB installation is just like installing it onto a normal hard drive, and once installed it's always there (of course).
You don't get the http server when installing from the Live DVD, but you can easily install it later. Cherry it out the way you want.
With this, you can set it up the way you like and then use it as you wish in other machines. I have a trouble shooting stick I use for just that purpose. Test hard drives, remove Windows passwords, partition drives, remove GPT partitions, scan for all MAC address (busts folks who take their own router to work to get Wi Fi on their phones), etc..
Be sure to set the screen saver to Bouncing Cows, so the Windows user can see what they are missing!
-T
It's certainly a thought. Thanks.
Ron
Tip: when setting up you flash drives partitions, tell the drive installer you want to do it yourself, switch from LVM to standard partition, then tell it it to automatically partition for you. User user account, user the same user name and group id as your base system. That way you can plug the stick into your running base system, mount the stick as a flash drive, and transfer files back and forth to it like any other flash drive.
There is a way to do this with an LVM partition, but it is a pain in the ...
On 09/06/2015 19:58, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
AFTER the first suscessful boot, to force the stick to scan for new hardware on each boot, edit dracut: /usr/lib/dracut/dracut.conf.d/01-dist.conf hostonly="no"
And to keep dracut updates from overwriting the above line into /etc/dracut.conf.d/01-custom.conf
Tip: when setting up you flash drives partitions, tell the drive installer you want to do it yourself, switch from LVM to standard partition, then tell it it to automatically partition for you. User user account, user the same user name and group id as your base system. That way you can plug the stick into your running base system, mount the stick as a flash drive, and transfer files back and forth to it like any other flash drive.
There is a way to do this with an LVM partition, but it is a pain in the ...
Todd, two useful tips, thank you, I might give this a try.
Seeing your earlier postings about F22 not installing onto a stick, I should try with F21, shouldn't I?
Ron
On 06/10/2015 01:19 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
On 09/06/2015 19:58, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
AFTER the first suscessful boot, to force the stick to scan for new hardware on each boot, edit dracut: /usr/lib/dracut/dracut.conf.d/01-dist.conf hostonly="no"
And to keep dracut updates from overwriting the above line into /etc/dracut.conf.d/01-custom.conf
Tip: when setting up you flash drives partitions, tell the drive installer you want to do it yourself, switch from LVM to standard partition, then tell it it to automatically partition for you. User user account, user the same user name and group id as your base system. That way you can plug the stick into your running base system, mount the stick as a flash drive, and transfer files back and forth to it like any other flash drive.
There is a way to do this with an LVM partition, but it is a pain in the ...
Todd, two useful tips, thank you, I might give this a try.
Seeing your earlier postings about F22 not installing onto a stick, I should try with F21, shouldn't I?
Ron
Hi Ron,
FC22 Xfce doesn't install properly, but FC22 Gnome does.
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
Just open a command prompt in Gnome, elevate to root, and
dnf groupinstall Xfce
Log out, enter your user name, then there will be a pull down to tell it you want Xfce.
This is what I did.
-T
On 06/10/2015 09:42 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/10/2015 01:19 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
On 09/06/2015 19:58, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
AFTER the first suscessful boot, to force the stick to scan for new hardware on each boot, edit dracut: /usr/lib/dracut/dracut.conf.d/01-dist.conf hostonly="no"
And to keep dracut updates from overwriting the above line into /etc/dracut.conf.d/01-custom.conf
Tip: when setting up you flash drives partitions, tell the drive installer you want to do it yourself, switch from LVM to standard partition, then tell it it to automatically partition for you. User user account, user the same user name and group id as your base system. That way you can plug the stick into your running base system, mount the stick as a flash drive, and transfer files back and forth to it like any other flash drive.
There is a way to do this with an LVM partition, but it is a pain in the ...
Todd, two useful tips, thank you, I might give this a try.
Seeing your earlier postings about F22 not installing onto a stick, I should try with F21, shouldn't I?
Ron
Hi Ron,
FC22 Xfce doesn't install properly, but FC22 Gnome does.
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
Just open a command prompt in Gnome, elevate to root, and
dnf groupinstall XfceLog out, enter your user name, then there will be a pull down to tell it you want Xfce.
This is what I did.
-T
Tip: unless you see a BIOS message during POST (boot up), USB3 add on cards won't boot a flash drive. You have to use a USB2 port. I haven't had any problem booting off a native (on the motherboard) USB3 port. on cards do
-
Ron Leach -
ToddAndMargo