FC17 XFCE Spin: what DM?

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

Hi all,

FC16 XFCE spin has been released with XFCE environment but GDM DM.

There was a time where LightDM was not really usable in Fedora because 
of code issues:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-May/000519.html

As far as I read, it's packaged now and seems to be usable:
http://pkgs.org/fedora-17/fedora-updates-x86_64/lightdm-gtk-1.1.6-3.fc17.x86...

Those who used FC17 XFCE spin: what's the situation? Is it working OOTB?

[Sergio Cipolla]

On 07/16/2012 10:31 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> FC16 XFCE spin has been released with XFCE environment but GDM DM.
>
> There was a time where LightDM was not really usable in Fedora because
> of code issues:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-May/000519.html
>
> As far as I read, it's packaged now and seems to be usable:
> http://pkgs.org/fedora-17/fedora-updates-x86_64/lightdm-gtk-1.1.6-3.fc17.x86...
>
> Those who used FC17 XFCE spin: what's the situation? Is it working OOTB?

Lightdm 1.2.2-15 here (and gtk greeter 1.1.6-3), working fine.
I found some little issues, like if you have an open session in a 
console terminal and try to shutdown from the lightdm greeter it will 
just get stuck there (instead of giving a warning and an option to cancel).
Also it sorts the users and session alphabetically (first capitals then 
small case) and apparently we can't define a default user/session (it 
always boots selected with the first on the list for both user and session).

Also xguest (testing package without dependency on gdm) didn't work when 
I tried but it might be that it just doesn't work if not with GNOME (I 
have limited space to test all alternatives but the xguest creator said 
he would have a look on that).

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:40:01 -0300
Sergio  wrote:
> On 07/16/2012 10:31 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > FC16 XFCE spin has been released with XFCE environment but GDM DM.
> >
> > There was a time where LightDM was not really usable in Fedora
> > because of code issues:
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-May/000519.html
> >
> > As far as I read, it's packaged now and seems to be usable:
> > http://pkgs.org/fedora-17/fedora-updates-x86_64/lightdm-gtk-1.1.6-3.fc17.x86...
> >
> > Those who used FC17 XFCE spin: what's the situation? Is it working
> > OOTB?

Note that F16 and F17 use gdm. 
lightdm was not available at the time they were created, and Fedora
does not (officially) respin releases once they are made.
> Lightdm 1.2.2-15 here (and gtk greeter 1.1.6-3), working fine.
> I found some little issues, like if you have an open session in a 
> console terminal and try to shutdown from the lightdm greeter it will 
> just get stuck there (instead of giving a warning and an option to
> cancel). Also it sorts the users and session alphabetically (first
> capitals then small case) and apparently we can't define a default
> user/session (it always boots selected with the first on the list for
> both user and session).

I wonder if that will be a stopper for us with the live media. I guess
not, since liveuser should be the only one showing up there hopefully.
> Also xguest (testing package without dependency on gdm) didn't work
> when I tried but it might be that it just doesn't work if not with
> GNOME (I have limited space to test all alternatives but the xguest
> creator said he would have a look on that).

Yeah, it will likely take time to work all the bugs out. ;(

kevin

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 07/17/2012 02:45 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Note that F16 and F17 use gdm.

OK. Still stuck on the LXDE spin then...

[Sergio Cipolla]

On 07/16/2012 08:45 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Lightdm 1.2.2-15 here (and gtk greeter 1.1.6-3), working fine.
> > I found some little issues, like if you have an open session in a
> > console terminal and try to shutdown from the lightdm greeter it will
> > just get stuck there (instead of giving a warning and an option to
> > cancel). Also it sorts the users and session alphabetically (first
> > capitals then small case) and apparently we can't define a default
> > user/session (it always boots selected with the first on the list for
> > both user and session).
>
> I wonder if that will be a stopper for us with the live media. I guess
> not, since liveuser should be the only one showing up there hopefully.
> > Also xguest (testing package without dependency on gdm) didn't work
> > when I tried but it might be that it just doesn't work if not with
> > GNOME (I have limited space to test all alternatives but the xguest
> > creator said he would have a look on that).
>
> Yeah, it will likely take time to work all the bugs out. ;(

I wonder if we shouldn't use 1.3.2 instead.
I know it's the development version, but that's where the bugs are 
worked on, right?
Also another day I peeked at its bug reports and it seemed to me that 
Ubuntu uses this branch.

IIRC, in lightdm.conf there are options for both default user and guest 
account and they are marked as unimplemented.
But from my reading of bug reports it seems Ubuntu has that guest 
account integrated with lightdm.
Ideally, in my imagination (which is just that), lightdm's guest account 
management would be integrated with (a working) xguest so the user 
could, for instance, choose to show/hide the guest user from the greeter.