On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:20:36 -0300
Sergio Cipolla <secipolla(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Fedora Xfce community.
First a question: is there someone directly responsible for the Xfce
spin? Or we shape it by reporting bugs to its components?
Both. There's a group of people who have commit to the spin's kickstart
file. They usually make changes on it based on discussion here or in
bugs.
Last ISO I tried was the nightly build from Sep 21st. I'm not on
it
now as my system (single-core, 1GB RAM) struggles with it when I use
it for a while.
I would like to know tips on how to disable some stuff so it loads
lighter (I think I'll try selinux) and also boot 'fromiso' (it works
differently than F17 so the old way doesn't work and boot from USB
isn't an option for me as USB 1.1 is just as slow as a CD, maybe
slower). I'll ask on the test list later anyway for those tips.
Yeah, not sure what it would be off hand. I doubt disabling selinux
will help much. If you come up with something, let us know. ;)
Now to the issue of appearance, specially icons.
Package libXcursor (required in F17 by xfce4-settings and gtk2/3)
installs /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme:
[Icon Theme]
Inherits=Adwaita
This looks like a bug.
It points to Adwaita, but Adwaita doesn't point only to a cursor
theme, instead it defines GTK, Metacity, icon (calls 'gnome') and
cursor themes.
/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/index.theme:
{snip}
GtkTheme=Adwaita
MetacityTheme=Adwaita
IconTheme=gnome
CursorTheme=Adwaita
CursorSize=24
Problem, in the live-CD this overrides whatever settings in Xfce. Even
if cursor theme was set to 'Bluebird', GTK theme for something else
than 'Adwaita' and icon theme for something else than 'gnome'
(actually it's set to 'Rodent'), it would load Adwaita GTK/cursor and
gnome icons, as it does now.
Yeah, please file a bug on it?
So this is the first issue that needs to be addressed. Either
libXcursor uses an alternative system (so each spin uses its choice of
theme) or it calls a desktop-agnostic theme, like 'Fedora' (which
would need a fix to call a cursor theme and maybe a GTK theme).
If Adwaita is to be the default Fedora theme then it must be fixed to
comply with Xfce too.
This means mostly that 'gnome' icon theme would need some improvements
or Adwaita should call 'Fedora' icon theme instead.
Feel free to propose that to the Adwaita maintainers.
The main icon missing for Xfce (in 'gnome' - thus
'Mist', thus
'Fedora' -, 'Tango' and 'Rodent') is system-suspend (see
http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25811#p25811 ), the 'Suspend'
icon in the 'Actions' panel plugin. But a proper icon theme should
have system-hibernate too (currently xfce4-session uses a workaround
for this lack, shipping its own icons for the logout dialogue).
Upstream Xfce doesn't really care about icons much. ;(
It's up to us to do the best we can.
Besides that we have a particular issue with the Xfce choice for
icons. Currently it's set to use 'Rodent' (package
xfce4-icon-theme-0:4.4.3-7.fc18).
That shouldn't be the default... is it? or did you change to it?
kevin