sensors plugin needs perl? (was: spins size changes)

[Raphael Groner]

>  Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:24:46 -0600
>  From: Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt;
>  To: xfce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  Subject: spins size changes
>  Message-ID: <20130510212446.6bdb8fed(a)jelerak.scrye.com&gt;
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>  
>  Greetings. 
>  
>  We are coming up on Beta and thats when we start wanting to make sure
>  we hit our size target (700MB cd). 
>  
>  Beta-TC4 Xfce is at 756M
>  
>  The issues around perl have been cleaned up, so removing perl only
>  removes the xfce4-sensors-plugin (and all the perl modules).  
Hi Kevin,

why did the sensors plugin need perl? Maybe the reason is already
explained in an old mail here on the list or another one - I do not
remember, sorry.

The sensors plugin should IMHO be included in the live image, it's one
of the best plugins available for Xfce to do the show case.

Greetings,
Raphael

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Samstag, den 11.05.2013, 16:07 +0200 schrieb Raphael Groner:
>  > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:24:46 -0600
>  > From: Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt;
>  > To: xfce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > Subject: spins size changes
>  > Message-ID: <20130510212446.6bdb8fed(a)jelerak.scrye.com&gt;
>  > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>  > 
>  > Greetings. 
>  > 
>  > We are coming up on Beta and thats when we start wanting to make sure
>  > we hit our size target (700MB cd). 
>  > 
>  > Beta-TC4 Xfce is at 756M
>  > 
>  > The issues around perl have been cleaned up, so removing perl only
>  > removes the xfce4-sensors-plugin (and all the perl modules). 
>  
>  Hi Kevin,
>  
>  why did the sensors plugin need perl? Maybe the reason is already
>  explained in an old mail here on the list or another one - I do not
>  remember, sorry. 
It's not too hard to figure out:

$ rpm -q --requires xfce4-sensors-plugin
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
hddtemp
libatk-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libcairo.so.2()(64bit)
libfontconfig.so.1()(64bit)
libfreetype.so.6()(64bit)
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libnotify.so.4()(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libpthread.so.0()(64bit)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
librt.so.1()(64bit)
libsensors.so.4()(64bit)
libxfce4panel-1.0.so.4()(64bit)
libxfce4sensors.so.1()(64bit)
libxfce4ui-1.so.0()(64bit)
libxfce4util.so.6()(64bit)
lm_sensors >= 2.8
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
xfce4-panel >= 4.4.1
rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) <= 5.2-1

As you can see, the plugin itself does not require perl. So it must be
one of the dependencies:

$ rpm -q --requires lm_sensors
/bin/bash
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/sbin/dmidecode
config(lm_sensors) = 3.3.2-5.fc18
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libsensors.so.4()(64bit)
perl >= 0:5.004
perl(Fcntl)
perl(File::Basename)
perl(constant)
perl(strict)
perl(vars)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
systemd-units
rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) <= 5.2-1

There it is.

>  The sensors plugin should IMHO be included in the live image,
> it's one
>  of the best plugins available for Xfce to do the show case. 
As a maintainer I can say it's one of the worst plugins, it crashes
quite often and is badly maintained. I'm fine with removing it from the
spin.

Kind regards,
Christoph

[Frank Murphy]

On Sat, 11 May 2013 17:46:19 +0200
Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  As a maintainer I can say it's one of the worst plugins, it
> crashes
>  quite often and is badly maintained. I'm fine with removing it from
>  the spin.
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  Christoph
>  
>  
What would be a good replacement on an Xfce box for it?
Without pulling in half Gnome\KDE
without depending on Gnome\KDE services

-- 
Regards,
Frank - I check for new mail app. 20min
www.frankly3d.com

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sat, 11 May 2013 16:51:39 +0100
Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  What would be a good replacement on an Xfce box for it?
>  Without pulling in half Gnome\KDE
>  without depending on Gnome\KDE services 
Well, I guess it depends on what you want to monitor... 

I use gkrellm (it has several plugins allowing you to see cpu temp,
etc). A lot of folks like conky, and I think it also has ability to
monitor sensors... 

kevin

[Frank Murphy]

On Sat, 11 May 2013 10:24:19 -0600
Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Sat, 11 May 2013 16:51:39 +0100
>  Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > What would be a good replacement on an Xfce box for it?
>  > Without pulling in half Gnome\KDE
>  > without depending on Gnome\KDE services
>  
>  Well, I guess it depends on what you want to monitor... 
>  
>  I use gkrellm  
went for this,
covers the gpu temp, along with hds, cores ootb.



-- 
Regards,
Frank - I check for new mail app. 20min
www.frankly3d.com

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Samstag, den 11.05.2013, 16:51 +0100 schrieb Frank Murphy:
>  On Sat, 11 May 2013 17:46:19 +0200
>  Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > As a maintainer I can say it's one of the worst plugins, it crashes
>  > quite often and is badly maintained. I'm fine with removing it from
>  > the spin.
>  > 
>  > Kind regards,
>  > Christoph
>  > 
>  >
>  
>  What would be a good replacement on an Xfce box for it?
>  Without pulling in half Gnome\KDE
>  without depending on Gnome\KDE services 
I'm afraid that none of the replacements is any better. They all depend
on lm_sensors and have the same dependencies.

You can still install the sensors plugin on your Xfce box, it's just no
longer included in the livecd.

Best regards,
Christoph