I asked this on the Xfce Users list and received a suggestion from a kind user there to a solution that 'almost works'.
But I will ask again because what I want to do I can actually see in the Current Xfce here in Fedora.
quote me.
I have created a 2nd panel that is 'Launcher count sized to fit' that contains 6 'launchers' that I have placed at the bottom of the screen. But I can not seem to get it to 'center justify'. The Help says that placing it on the right, left, or bottom should automatically center it.
What am I doing incorrectly and where can I find the necessary information to correct this?
Am Mittwoch, den 23.11.2011, 14:05 -0500 schrieb David:
I asked this on the Xfce Users list and received a suggestion from a kind user there to a solution that 'almost works'.
But I will ask again because what I want to do I can actually see in the Current Xfce here in Fedora.
Hi David,
I think it's better to continue the discussion on the Xfce list because that's where it started and because the problem is not specific to Fedora.
quote me.
I have created a 2nd panel that is 'Launcher count sized to fit' that contains 6 'launchers' that I have placed at the bottom of the screen. But I can not seem to get it to 'center justify'. The Help says that placing it on the right, left, or bottom should automatically center it.
The help is outdated, this text is still from the 4.6 panel.
What am I doing incorrectly and where can I find the necessary information to correct this?
I don't think you are doing something wrong, the new panel just doesn't do centering properly. For me the problem is even worse because I have two displays with different sizes and it's impossible to have a centered panel there. This really should be discussed upstream with the developers.
Regards, Christoph
On 11/23/2011 2:44 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 23.11.2011, 14:05 -0500 schrieb David:
I asked this on the Xfce Users list and received a suggestion from a kind user there to a solution that 'almost works'.
But I will ask again because what I want to do I can actually see in the Current Xfce here in Fedora.
Hi David,
I think it's better to continue the discussion on the Xfce list because that's where it started and because the problem is not specific to Fedora.
quote me.
I have created a 2nd panel that is 'Launcher count sized to fit' that contains 6 'launchers' that I have placed at the bottom of the screen. But I can not seem to get it to 'center justify'. The Help says that placing it on the right, left, or bottom should automatically center it.
The help is outdated, this text is still from the 4.6 panel.
What am I doing incorrectly and where can I find the necessary information to correct this?
I don't think you are doing something wrong, the new panel just doesn't do centering properly. For me the problem is even worse because I have two displays with different sizes and it's impossible to have a centered panel there. This really should be discussed upstream with the developers.
Regards, Christoph
I agree that this problem is not Fedora Xfce specific. However I have only had one reply with one suggestion. And that suggestion, while appreciated, failed.
I asked here because the Xfce that installs from the Fedora-16 Xfce Live-CD spin does have this small taskbar located at the bottom of the screen and it *is* centered.
I was hoping whoever setup this desktop might also follow this list and would tell me what to do.
Am Donnerstag, den 24.11.2011, 11:59 -0500 schrieb David:
On 11/23/2011 2:44 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
This really should be discussed upstream with the developers.
I agree that this problem is not Fedora Xfce specific. However I have only had one reply with one suggestion. And that suggestion, while appreciated, failed.
I asked here because the Xfce that installs from the Fedora-16 Xfce Live-CD spin does have this small taskbar located at the bottom of the screen and it *is* centered.
I was hoping whoever setup this desktop might also follow this list and would tell me what to do.
Hi David,
what you are seeing in Fedora is the default panel configuration from upstream, we didn't change it. Check out the default configuration from /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/default.xml. The relevant line seems to be
<property name="position" type="string" value="p=10;x=0;y=0"/>
You can try to manually edit your configuration and restart xfce4-panel with 'xfce4-panel -r' afterwards. Good luck!
Regards, Christoph
On 11/24/2011 12:58 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 24.11.2011, 11:59 -0500 schrieb David:
On 11/23/2011 2:44 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
This really should be discussed upstream with the developers.
I agree that this problem is not Fedora Xfce specific. However I have only had one reply with one suggestion. And that suggestion, while appreciated, failed.
I asked here because the Xfce that installs from the Fedora-16 Xfce Live-CD spin does have this small taskbar located at the bottom of the screen and it *is* centered.
I was hoping whoever setup this desktop might also follow this list and would tell me what to do.
Hi David,
what you are seeing in Fedora is the default panel configuration from upstream, we didn't change it. Check out the default configuration from /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/default.xml. The relevant line seems to be
<property name="position" type="string" value="p=10;x=0;y=0"/>You can try to manually edit your configuration and restart xfce4-panel with 'xfce4-panel -r' afterwards. Good luck!
Regards, Christoph
All this time I was 'talking' to one of the Xfce guys? 'blush'
Sorry about that. I am new to Xfce. Since Fedora-15 or so. Whenever the Gnome 3 transition.
I appreciate the work. I truly like Xfce.
And thank you for the information.
I see the line in the file but since this is a second panel should I add a line with this to that file? Or should I copy this somewhere with a 'change'?
Am Donnerstag, den 24.11.2011, 13:58 -0500 schrieb David:
On 11/24/2011 12:58 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Hi David,
what you are seeing in Fedora is the default panel configuration from upstream, we didn't change it. Check out the default configuration from /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/default.xml. The relevant line seems to be
<property name="position" type="string" value="p=10;x=0;y=0"/>You can try to manually edit your configuration and restart xfce4-panel with 'xfce4-panel -r' afterwards. Good luck!
Regards, Christoph
All this time I was 'talking' to one of the Xfce guys? 'blush'
If 'guys' are 'maintainers', then yes. :)
Kevin and I are the only two maintainers, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Xfce
I'm also involved in Xfce upstream a little, I am leading the German translation team, take care of the bug tracker and contributed some patches, but I wouldn't dare calling myself an Xfce developer.
I see the line in the file but since this is a second panel should I add a line with this to that file? Or should I copy this somewhere with a 'change'?
Look for the second panel. You should be able to identify it by looking at the list of items in the panel. Then look for the line that includes the propery "position" and change it as given in my example. But this is just a dirty hack and I'm not sure it will work.
Meanwhile I found the solution. I had to ask Nick (xfce4-panel's author) on IRC because it is everything but intuitive: 1. Create a panel and push it to the bottom/top/left side/right side of the screen. 2. Try to center it and then carefully drag it along the edge. 3. When you have hit the middle, it snaps and stays in the middle
Now we have the solution we were looking for, but unfortunately not on the Xfce mailing list. I will post it there, too, but now you understand why I wanted the thread to continue there.
Kind regards, Christoph
On 11/24/2011 3:21 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 24.11.2011, 13:58 -0500 schrieb David:
On 11/24/2011 12:58 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
All this time I was 'talking' to one of the Xfce guys? 'blush'
If 'guys' are 'maintainers', then yes. :)
Hmm... A much better description.
Kevin and I are the only two maintainers, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Xfce
I'm also involved in Xfce upstream a little, I am leading the German translation team, take care of the bug tracker and contributed some patches, but I wouldn't dare calling myself an Xfce developer.
I see the line in the file but since this is a second panel should I add a line with this to that file? Or should I copy this somewhere with a 'change'?
Look for the second panel. You should be able to identify it by looking at the list of items in the panel. Then look for the line that includes the propery "position" and change it as given in my example. But this is just a dirty hack and I'm not sure it will work.
Meanwhile I found the solution. I had to ask Nick (xfce4-panel's author) on IRC because it is everything but intuitive: 1. Create a panel and push it to the bottom/top/left side/right side of the screen. 2. Try to center it and then carefully drag it along the edge. 3. When you have hit the middle, it snaps and stays in the middle
Thank you for than. I will try as so as possible.
Now we have the solution we were looking for, but unfortunately not on the Xfce mailing list. I will post it there, too, but now you understand why I wanted the thread to continue there.
Kind regards, Christoph
I understood what before but I did not seem to be having much luck there. Often the major part of my problem is knowing just how to ask.
One thousand years ago in a college calculus class (late '60s early '70s) we were asked "Do you have any questions before the assignment?" No one raised there hands but me. I said that my question was that I understood so little this assignment that I di *not* know what question(s) to ask. made me 'friends' with the prof and he was 'softer' from there on. :-)
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