Fedup

[John C. Deal]

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All,

I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor. 
That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a bit
outdated.

Thank you all very much for all you do.

John Deal
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[Kevin Fenzi]

On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
"John C. Deal"  wrote:
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> All,
> I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor. 
>
> That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> bit outdated.

From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
think are old/incorrect?

Thanks,

kevin

[ToddAndMargo]

On 05/27/2015 07:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> "John C. Deal"  wrote:
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> > All,
> >  I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> >
> > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > bit outdated.
>
> From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> think are old/incorrect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> kevin

Hi John,
# = root

# rpm --import https://fedoraproject.org/static/246110C1.txt
# yum update
# yum clean all
# yum --releasever=22 distro-sync

Has worked perfectly on two machines so far for me.

On the first one, I actually listened to music over the Internet
and did office work (on the computer) while Fed Up did its
thing.  Took about 30 minutes or so.

-T

[John C. Deal]

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For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,
when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:

# fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct

John C. Deal
2575 Wexford RD
Columbus, OH 43221-3215
[phone] (cell)

On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> "John C. Deal"  wrote:
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> > All,
> > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> >
> > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > bit outdated.
>
> From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> think are old/incorrect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> kevin
>
> xfce mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
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[John C. Deal]

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I.e,  yum rather than dnf.
John C. Deal
2575 Wexford RD
Columbus, OH 43221-3215
[phone] (cell)

On 05/27/2015 12:36 PM, John C. Deal wrote:
> For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,

when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
>
> John C. Deal
> 2575 Wexford RD
> Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> [phone] (cell)
>
> On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > "John C. Deal"  wrote:
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> > > All,
> > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > >
> > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > bit outdated.
> > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > think are old/incorrect?
> > Thanks,
> > kevin
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
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[Randall Berry]

To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a requirement
for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> From the man page

"OPTIONS
   Required Arguments
       --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
           Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades. Required for
           updating pre-F21 systems."

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal 
wrote:
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> For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly, when
> I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
>
> # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
>
> John C. Deal
> 2575 Wexford RD
> Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> [phone] (cell)
>
> On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > "John C. Deal" 
>
> wrote:
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> > >
> > > All,
> > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > >
> > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > bit outdated.
> >
> > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > think are old/incorrect?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > kevin
> >
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
>
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[John C. Deal]

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So just : "fedup --network 22"?
John C. Deal
2575 Wexford RD
Columbus, OH 43221-3215
[phone] (cell)

On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a requirement for pre-F21 and upgrading to

F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> From the man page
>
> "OPTIONS
>    Required Arguments
>        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
>            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades. Required for
>            updating pre-F21 systems."
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal

<[e-mail] > wrote:
> For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,

when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
>
> John C. Deal
> 2575 Wexford RD
> Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 (cell)
>
> On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > "John C. Deal"

 wrote:
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> > > All,
> > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > >
> > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > bit outdated.
> > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > think are old/incorrect?
> > Thanks,
> > kevin
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail] 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
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>
>
>
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[Randall Berry]

Give me a bit.. I'm practicing what I preach.. fedup from F21 to F22 is
running now without the product option. So far so good. We'll see what
happens when I need to reboot.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John C. Deal 
wrote:
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> So just : "fedup --network 22"?
> John C. Deal
> 2575 Wexford RD
> Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> [phone] (cell)
>
> On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> > To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a requirement
>
> for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> > From the man page
> >
> > "OPTIONS
> >    Required Arguments
> >        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
> >            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades. Required for
> >            updating pre-F21 systems."
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal <[e-mail]
>
>  > wrote:
> > For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,
>
> when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> > # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> > usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> > fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
> >
> > John C. Deal
> > 2575 Wexford RD
> > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 (cell)
> >
> > On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > > "John C. Deal" 
>
>   wrote:
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > Hash: SHA256
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > > >
> > > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention to
> > > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > > bit outdated.
> > > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > > think are old/incorrect?
> > > Thanks,
> > > kevin
> > > xfce mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
>
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > _______________________________________________
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
>
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[Randall Berry]

Well, upgrade went fine without the use of the --product argument. I have
Mate, Gnome and Xfce all installed, all updated without event.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Randy Berry  wrote:
> Give me a bit.. I'm practicing what I preach.. fedup from F21 to F22 is
> running now without the product option. So far so good. We'll see what
> happens when I need to reboot.
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John C. Deal 
> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > So just : "fedup --network 22"?
> > John C. Deal
> > 2575 Wexford RD
> > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > [phone] (cell)
> >
> > On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> > > To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a
> >
> > requirement for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> > > From the man page
> > >
> > > "OPTIONS
> > >    Required Arguments
> > >        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
> > >            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades. Required
> >
> > for
> > >        updating pre-F21 systems."
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal <
> >
> > [e-mail] 
> > > wrote:
> > > For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,
> >
> > when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> > > # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> > > usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> > > fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
> > >
> > > John C. Deal
> > > 2575 Wexford RD
> > > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > > [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 (cell)
> > >
> > > On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > > > "John C. Deal" 
> >
> >   wrote:
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> > > > > All,
> > > > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > > > >
> > > > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention
> >
> > to
> > > > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > > > bit outdated.
> > > > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > > > think are old/incorrect?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > kevin
> > > > xfce mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> >
> > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > >
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[Randall Berry]

I ran 'dnf distro-sync' to be sure. Everything went smoothly. Very few
activities for the sync.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Randy Berry  wrote:
> Well, upgrade went fine without the use of the --product argument. I have
> Mate, Gnome and Xfce all installed, all updated without event.
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Randy Berry  wrote:
> > Give me a bit.. I'm practicing what I preach.. fedup from F21 to F22 is
> > running now without the product option. So far so good. We'll see what
> > happens when I need to reboot.
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John C. Deal 
> > wrote:
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> > > So just : "fedup --network 22"?
> > > John C. Deal
> > > 2575 Wexford RD
> > > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > > [phone] (cell)
> > >
> > > On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> > > > To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a
> > >
> > > requirement for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> > > > From the man page
> > > >
> > > > "OPTIONS
> > > >    Required Arguments
> > > >        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
> > > >            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades. Required
> > >
> > > for
> > > >        updating pre-F21 systems."
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal <
> > >
> > > [e-mail] 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,
> > >
> > > when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> > > > # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> > > > usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> > > > fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
> > > >
> > > > John C. Deal
> > > > 2575 Wexford RD
> > > > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > > > [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 (cell)
> > > >
> > > > On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > > > > "John C. Deal" 
> > >
> > >   wrote:
> > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > > > > > All,
> > > > > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some attention
> > >
> > > to
> > > > > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems
> > >
> > > a
> > > > > > bit outdated.
> > > > > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > > > > think are old/incorrect?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > kevin
> > > > > xfce mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > >
> > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > xfce mailing list
> > > > [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >
> > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > xfce mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
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[John C. Deal]

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Hi,

Tried fedup on my laptop; it would not reboot to finish the
installation.  I re-installed the 21 spin and tried it again and on the
first reboot GRUB did not show fedup.  I rebooted and fedup finally
showed on the GRUB screen.  I selected it and since then (about ten
minutes ago) the screen has been blank.

I just gave it a retry and was able to boot 21 again (surprisingly)
, so I tried fedup once again.  It seems to me that fedup does not play
nice with dual-booted machines.  I also tried fedup it on an old machine
in the basement, and it seemed to work just fine right up until it told
me I didn't have enough space.  I have pulled out gparted and will give
it another go.

As I was getting ready to send this, fedup finished and I got a GRUB
screen with the fedup option again. Once again, I selected it and the
screen just blanked.

All of which makes me think that fedup and its wiki page, need some
attention, at least for amateurs like me.

Thanks,in advance for hearing me out.
John C. Deal
2575 Wexford RD
Columbus, OH 43221-3215
[phone] (cell)

On 05/27/2015 04:06 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> I ran 'dnf distro-sync' to be sure. Everything went smoothly. Very few activities for the sync.
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Randy Berry <[e-mail]

> wrote:
> Well, upgrade went fine without the use of the --product argument.

I have Mate, Gnome and Xfce all installed, all updated without event.
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Randy Berry <[e-mail]

> wrote:
>     Give me a bit.. I'm practicing what I preach.. fedup from F21

to F22 is running now without the product option. So far so good. We'll
see what happens when I need to reboot.
>     On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John C. Deal

<[e-mail] > wrote:
> So just : "fedup --network 22"?
> John C. Deal
> 2575 Wexford RD
> Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 (cell)
>
> On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:
> > To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It was a

requirement for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works fine without it.
> > From the man page
> > "OPTIONS
> >    Required Arguments
> >        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]
> >            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for upgrades.

Required for
> >        updating pre-F21 systems."
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal

<[e-mail] 
 > wrote:
> > For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More importantly,

when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22 spin, I get this:
> > # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct
> > usage: fedup <SOURCE> [options]
> > fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product= nonproduct
> > John C. Deal
> > 2575 Wexford RD
> > Columbus, OH 43221-3215
> > [phone] tel:%28614%29%20325-1177 tel:%28614%29%20325-1177

(cell)
> > On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400
> > > "John C. Deal"

 
 wrote:
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > > I am a mere beneficiary of all of your work, not a contributor.
> > > >
> > > > That said, it would be great if someone could devote some

attention to
> > > > the Fedup wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp), which seems a
> > > > bit outdated.
> > > From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there particular parts you
> > > think are old/incorrect?
> > > Thanks,
> > > kevin
> > > xfce mailing list
> > > [e-mail]

> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > _______________________________________________
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail]

> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > xfce mailing list
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