Docs beats writer(s) for f18?

[Kevin Fenzi]

Hey everyone.

Per a note on the docs list: 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-August/014540.html

The "Beats" are open for Fedora 18...

I see that there is currently no one signed up to do Xfce in the
desktop section.

Would anyone like to step up and write this?

Note that for F18, we have updated to Xfce 4.10, so we can add a bunch
of 4.10 goodies from the feature page.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Xfce-4.10

Any takers?

kevin

[Jayson Rowe]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
> Per a note on the docs list:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-August/014540.html
>
> The "Beats" are open for Fedora 18...
>
> I see that there is currently no one signed up to do Xfce in the
> desktop section.
>
> Would anyone like to step up and write this?
>
> Note that for F18, we have updated to Xfce 4.10, so we can add a bunch
> of 4.10 goodies from the feature page.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Xfce-4.10
>
> Any takers?
>
> kevin
>
> xfce mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce

Since nobody else has stepped up, I might be willing to give this a
try. Is it really involved? Can you point me to the one for the
current release so I can see what I'm getting into?

Thanks,

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:12:58 -0400
Jayson Rowe  wrote:
> Since nobody else has stepped up, I might be willing to give this a
> try. Is it really involved? Can you point me to the one for the
> current release so I can see what I'm getting into?

We didn't have anything in the Fedora 17 one. :(

See the page history:

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...

Basically the docs folks gather up all this info and convert it into
the release notes at docs.fedoraproject.org.

The Fedora 16 one had a bit on Xfce 4.8:

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...

So, basically it should be a "whats new and cool in 4.10" for Fedora
18. Things people upgrading would like to know or new users might be
interested in before choosing Xfce.

kevin

[Jayson Rowe]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:12:58 -0400
> Jayson Rowe  wrote:
> > Since nobody else has stepped up, I might be willing to give this a
> > try. Is it really involved? Can you point me to the one for the
> > current release so I can see what I'm getting into?
>
> We didn't have anything in the Fedora 17 one. :(
>
> See the page history:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...
>
> Basically the docs folks gather up all this info and convert it into
> the release notes at docs.fedoraproject.org.
>
> The Fedora 16 one had a bit on Xfce 4.8:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...
>
> So, basically it should be a "whats new and cool in 4.10" for Fedora
> 18. Things people upgrading would like to know or new users might be
> interested in before choosing Xfce.
>
> kevin
>
> xfce mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce

Oh, ok - I think I can handle that :)

[Tim Lauridsen]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Jayson Rowe  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:12:58 -0400
> > Jayson Rowe  wrote:
> > > Since nobody else has stepped up, I might be willing to give this a
> > > try. Is it really involved? Can you point me to the one for the
> > > current release so I can see what I'm getting into?
> >
> > We didn't have anything in the Fedora 17 one. :(
> >
> > See the page history:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...
> > Basically the docs folks gather up all this info and convert it into
> > the release notes at docs.fedoraproject.org.
> >
> > The Fedora 16 one had a bit on Xfce 4.8:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Desktop_Beat&o...
> > So, basically it should be a "whats new and cool in 4.10" for Fedora
> > 18. Things people upgrading would like to know or new users might be
> > interested in before choosing Xfce.
> >
> > kevin
> >
> > xfce mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
>
> Oh, ok - I think I can handle that :)
>
> --
> -jayson
> _______________________________________________
> xfce mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce

http://www.xfce.org/about/tour

is at great source to information on what is news in 4.10 :)

Tim

[Sergio Cipolla]

Jayson, I might help you now that there are live-CDs already (
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/18-Alpha-RC2/Live/i386/ ).

Unfortunately I couldn't make it work from ISO. There was a script I used
to patch the initrd but it didn't work with this ISO. It's very slow from
the CD (they will certainly improve that as it took a very long time to
boot).
Note: my hardware is old.

Re. the live-CD itself:
- icon theme is set to 'Rodent' but when the desktop came up (BTW, it boots
to lightdm login screen) it was showing the GNOME icon theme.
- it's set to not show images in the menu (Settings>Appearance). Just
saying, I don't know if this is just the default Xfce setup.
- particular to my case, auto-mounting worked for me after I don't even
know how long ago (it didn't work with F17 live-CDs). I'll check
thunar-volman's version in F17 to see if it's because of that but I suspect
it's some underlying service that it uses (I have removed thunar-volman
from my installed system but I'll try it again).
- panel doesn't have neither mixer applet nor clipman applet, but it may
fall on that 'default Xfce' rule.
- first time I clicked on the 'web browser' launcher it didn't open
anything, then I opened the 'preferred applications' to see if it was set
and it was (Firefox) then next time the launcher worked. This I suspect was
just my system struggling to run the CD.

[Sergio Cipolla]

I've added my name to 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats#Changes_in_Fedor... 
just to show that it will be done.
Have you written anything yet, Jayson?
I know it's quite simple so if you haven't I can do that until tomorrow.

I think we just need to add it to 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat

[Sergio Cipolla]

Here's the first draft: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#Xfce

[Jayson Rowe]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Sergio  wrote:
> Here's the first draft:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#Xfce
>
> xfce mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce

Hey everyone - I needed to come reply here anyway. I've got a lot of
stuff going on at work (in the process of changing jobs/roles), so
it's unlikely I'll be able to devote any real time to this. HUGE
thanks to Sergio for stepping up and helping make this happen!

[Sergio Cipolla]

Just a heads up that anyone with a fedoraprojects account can add 
his/hers contribution to 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#Xfce