As one of the refugees from Gnome3, I'm running and trying to learn xfce under F16 -- and the xfce-panel is still a major stumbling block. I did "yum install gnome-panel," and it worked. But neither "gnome- panel" nor "/usr/bin/gnome-panel" works. I get an error message about gnome-shell which I can't even c&p here, because without gnome-panel I can't even get to it. Catch-22??
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:58:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
As one of the refugees from Gnome3, I'm running and trying to learn xfce under F16 -- and the xfce-panel is still a major stumbling block. I did "yum install gnome-panel," and it worked. But neither "gnome- panel" nor "/usr/bin/gnome-panel" works. I get an error message about gnome-shell which I can't even c&p here, because without gnome-panel I can't even get to it. Catch-22??
LATER: I killed my newsreader and got back to my terminal. Here's what it says:
[btth@Hbsk ~]$ /usr/bin/gnome-panel Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running. [btth@Hbsk ~]$ /usr/bin/gnome-panel Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running. [1]+ Terminated gnome-panel [btth@Hbsk ~]$
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
As one of the refugees from Gnome3, I'm running and trying to learn xfce under F16 -- and the xfce-panel is still a major stumbling block. I did "yum install gnome-panel," and it worked. But neither "gnome- panel" nor "/usr/bin/gnome-panel" works. I get an error message about gnome-shell which I can't even c&p here, because without gnome-panel I can't even get to it. Catch-22??
Perhaps you could explain the issues you are having with xfce4-panel?
Running gnome 3's gnome-panel under Xfce is quite unlikely to work smoothly, IMHO.
kevin
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:22:25 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
As one of the refugees from Gnome3, I'm running and trying to learn xfce under F16 -- and the xfce-panel is still a major stumbling block. I did "yum install gnome-panel," and it worked. But neither "gnome- panel" nor "/usr/bin/gnome-panel" works. I get an error message about gnome-shell which I can't even c&p here, because without gnome-panel I can't even get to it. Catch-22??
Perhaps you could explain the issues you are having with xfce4-panel?
The biggest one is that I can't get the workspace switcher to do anything. Everything I do is predicated on having two rows with 14 - 18 spaces. But I change the settings in xfce's switcher, and they change back. I log out and back in, and my changes still don't take.
Also, the bottom panel (I use bottom and left side) is just a tad too high on the monitor (like a lot of other things on that machine), so that when I hold the cursor on some unfamiliar launcher, the little message that pops up is too far down below to read.
Running gnome 3's gnome-panel under Xfce is quite unlikely to work smoothly, IMHO.
I thought Gnome 3 didn't have one! Is gnome- panel-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686 (given by rpm -q) part of gnome 3, then?? That seems contrary to the gnome-developers' whole new party line.
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 19:15 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:22:25 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Running gnome 3's gnome-panel under Xfce is quite unlikely to work smoothly, IMHO.
Right. It's intended for fallback mode use only in GNOME3 (and thus what you are really looking for is a forward port of the GNOME2.x panel if you want to get back the 2.x experience). Think upon it like what Canonical did to create the fallback in Unity. Unfortunately, the GNOME3.x "panel" is also integrated with the whole overall Shell concept, so trying to run it in any other setup won't work.
I thought Gnome 3 didn't have one! Is gnome- panel-3.2.1-2.fc16.i686 (given by rpm -q) part of gnome 3, then?? That seems contrary to the gnome-developers' whole new party line.
They're trying to kill it off and go to a unified single approach based on shoving everything into the window manager in Javascript, but haven't quite reached that point of nirvana yet.
Anyway, welcome to the party. I looked at 2.x panel code for a while with a view to porting it onto the later GTK. Then I thought about it and asked myself why I'd want to spend my spare time fixing that for them when Xfce is clearly the better investment of spare time. I suggest you make the switch entirely and we collectively figure out what's going on with your switching between workspaces.
Jon.
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:22:25 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Perhaps you could explain the issues you are having with xfce4-panel?
The biggest one is that I can't get the workspace switcher to do anything. Everything I do is predicated on having two rows with 14
- 18 spaces. But I change the settings in xfce's switcher, and they
change back. I log out and back in, and my changes still don't take.
Change back to ? 1 row with 4 workspaces?
Any errors? Anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
Also, the bottom panel (I use bottom and left side) is just a tad too high on the monitor (like a lot of other things on that machine), so that when I hold the cursor on some unfamiliar launcher, the little message that pops up is too far down below to read.
You should be able to unlock it and move it up?
kevin
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