F14 RC3: Bluetooth difficulty on Samsung netbook

[Ron Leach]

List, good morning,

Thanks to Kevin for preparing a CD-sized spin of the beta, now testing 
F14 RC3 XFCE on a Samsung Netbook NB30.  This machine has Bluetooth 
built in; it's always on, and has no physical button for on or off.

The netbook has dual OSs installed, F14-RC3, and XPhome; I think XP 
reports the Bluetooth system as 'Widcomm'.

The F14 installation shows a Bluetooth icon, but always with a red 
cross against it.  The pop-up reports that Bluetooth is on, but it can 
neither find any devices, nor can any devices find it.  The 
'properties' item lets you 'turn on Bluetooth' (but it's already on?) 
but nothing seems to change.

F13 XFCE spin (live CD) finds the bluetooth.   The Bluetooth icon is 
shown, without a red cross against it.  The popup menu in F13 is much 
longer, with options such as 'make visible', 'send files ..', 'add new 
device', etc.  Devices can see the NB30, and it can find and connect 
to devices such as a mobile phone, adding its name to the devices list 
in the popup menu. I wondered if the Bluetooth manager in F14 is the 
same version as in F13.

Has anyone else experienced success or difficulty with Bluetooth on F14?

I'd be very happy to post details of logging files etc, but I need a 
little guidance which files to look at.  Perhaps I could reset and 
restart the Bluetooth subsystem somehow.

regards, Ron

[Ron Leach]

Ron Leach wrote:
> I'd be very happy to post details of logging files etc, but I need a 
> little guidance which files to look at.

Just to add, I found some references to Bluetooth in dmesg:

usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0a5c, idProduct=219b
usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 4-2: Product: Broadcom Bluetooth 2.1 Device
usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
usb 4-2: SerialNumber: F07BCXXXxxxx

<snip other stuff>

Bluetooth: Core ver 2.15
NET: Registered protocol family 31
Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
Bluetooth: Generic Bluetooth USB driver ver 0.6
microcode: CPU0 sig=0x106ca, pf=0x4, revision=0x105
microcode: CPU1 sig=0x106ca, pf=0x4, revision=0x105
microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 
, Peter Oruba
usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb

regards, Ron

[Ron Leach]

Ron Leach wrote:
> Just to add, I found some references to Bluetooth in dmesg:

<snip>
>

And here a message from Network Manager (beware the line wrap):
> Oct  3 09:34:12 localhost NetworkManager[1089]: <info> NetworkManager (version 0.8.1-6.git20100831.fc14) is starting...
>
> Oct  3 09:34:13 localhost NetworkManager[1089]: <warn> bluez error getting default adapter: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1

regards, Ron

[Kevin Fenzi]

Not sure I understand. You have a f14 install that doesn't see
bluetooth, but the live media does?

Or it does until you install to HD and then it does not?

kevin

[Ron Leach]

Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Not sure I understand. You have a f14 install that doesn't see
> bluetooth, but the live media does?
>
> Or it does until you install to HD and then it does not?

Kevin, thanks for reply; sorry the posts were not too clear.

Netbook: Samsung NB30, built-in Bluetooth.

Test 1: F14-XFCE RC3 HD install, Bluetooth icon shows but with red 
cross against it, machine cannot 'find' or 'use' any bluetooth devices.

Test 2: For comparison, using F13-XFCE (not F14) on live media (so as 
not to overwrite the F14 HD install, which I had wanted to use going 
forward), Bluetooth icon does not have red cross, popup menu on icon 
has several more commands than the popup had on F14, and machine sees 
Bluetooth device (mobile phone).

Seemingly, F13 finds bluetooth and can use it, F14 does not.

Here an extract of lsusb -v from the F14 installation (long, probably 
includes each sub-capability)
> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0a5c:219b Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth 2.1 Device
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength                18
>   bDescriptorType         1
>   bcdUSB               2.00
>   bDeviceClass          224 Wireless
>   bDeviceSubClass         1 Radio Frequency
>   bDeviceProtocol         1 Bluetooth
>   bMaxPacketSize0        64
>   idVendor           0x0a5c Broadcom Corp.
>   idProduct          0x219b Bluetooth 2.1 Device
>   bcdDevice            3.43
>   iManufacturer           1 Broadcom Corp
>   iProduct                2 Broadcom Bluetooth 2.1 Device
>   iSerial                 3 <stripped>
>   bNumConfigurations      1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
>     bLength                 9
>     bDescriptorType         2
>     wTotalLength          216
>     bNumInterfaces          4
>     bConfigurationValue     1
>     iConfiguration          0 
>     bmAttributes         0xe0
>       Self Powered
>       Remote Wakeup
>     MaxPower                0mA
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        0
>       bAlternateSetting       0
>       bNumEndpoints           3
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
>         bmAttributes            3
>           Transfer Type            Interrupt
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0010  1x 16 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
>         bmAttributes            2
>           Transfer Type            Bulk
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
>         bmAttributes            2
>           Transfer Type            Bulk
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       0
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0000  1x 0 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0000  1x 0 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       1
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0009  1x 9 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0009  1x 9 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       2
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0011  1x 17 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0011  1x 17 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       3
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0020  1x 32 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0020  1x 32 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       4
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        1
>       bAlternateSetting       5
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       224 Wireless
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Radio Frequency
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 Bluetooth
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
>         bmAttributes            1
>           Transfer Type            Isochronous
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        2
>       bAlternateSetting       0
>       bNumEndpoints           2
>       bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
>       bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
>       bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
>       iInterface              0 
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
>         bmAttributes            2
>           Transfer Type            Bulk
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0020  1x 32 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
>         bmAttributes            2
>           Transfer Type            Bulk
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0020  1x 32 bytes
>         bInterval               1
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        3
>       bAlternateSetting       0
>       bNumEndpoints           0
>       bInterfaceClass       254 Application Specific Interface
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Device Firmware Update
>       bInterfaceProtocol      1 
>       iInterface              0 
>       Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
>         bLength                             7
>         bDescriptorType                    33
>         bmAttributes                        7
>           Will Not Detach
>           Manifestation Tolerant
>           Upload Supported
>           Download Supported
>         wDetachTimeout                   5000 milliseconds
>         wTransferSize                      64 bytes
> Device Status:     0x0001
>   Self Powered

Once again, apologies if the original posts - which were followed with 
some dmesg output in subsequent posts - were confusing.

regards, Ron

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 10:01 +0100, Ron Leach wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Not sure I understand. You have a f14 install that doesn't see
> > bluetooth, but the live media does?
> >
> > Or it does until you install to HD and then it does not?
>
> Kevin, thanks for reply; sorry the posts were not too clear.
>
> Netbook: Samsung NB30, built-in Bluetooth.
>
> Test 1: F14-XFCE RC3 HD install, Bluetooth icon shows but with red 
> cross against it, machine cannot 'find' or 'use' any bluetooth devices.
>
> Test 2: For comparison, using F13-XFCE (not F14) on live media (so as 
> not to overwrite the F14 HD install, which I had wanted to use going 
> forward), Bluetooth icon does not have red cross, popup menu on icon 
> has several more commands than the popup had on F14, and machine sees 
> Bluetooth device (mobile phone).
>
> Seemingly, F13 finds bluetooth and can use it, F14 does not.

Right click the icon, hit 'disable bluetooth', then right click it again
and hit 'enable bluetooth'. Or do 'service bluetooth stop' then 'service
bluetooth start' as root at a console. It's a known bug in the bluez
package in the Beta, it's been fixed since then (so 'yum update' should
also get you a bluez that works).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634205

[Ron Leach]

Adam Williamson, as helpful as ever, wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 10:01 +0100, Ron Leach wrote:
> > Seemingly, F13 finds bluetooth and can use it, F14 does not.
>
> Right click the icon, hit 'disable bluetooth', then right click it again
> and hit 'enable bluetooth'.

Nope, no luck.
> Or do 'service bluetooth stop' then 'service
> bluetooth start' as root at a console.

skipped that since the click-restart hadn't worked
> It's a known bug in the bluez
> package in the Beta, it's been fixed since then (so 'yum update' should
> also get you a bluez that works).

Oh, excellent.
Did that, had time for a couple of cups of coffee, too :)

Bluetooth finds device, etc.
That problem is solved.

I now realise that there is a residual issue, though:
The machine cannot 'browse' the files on the bluetooth device (mobile 
phone).  Nothing seems to happen, a bluetooth activity symbol comes on 
on the phone, but the file manager doesn't load, and nothing else 
happens.  Surprised, I dropped back to F13 as well, to see whether 
that could, but F13 also fails to browse the files.  So this browse 
failure is not F14-specific.

The hardware on both netbook and phone are ok; Netbook under XPhome 
sees the phone and can browse files.

I'm going to do some more checks.  I'm going to check using a USB 
plug-in BT device (which may use a different driver), and I'm going to 
check on a different machine, as well, to try to narrow down where the 
problem shows up.  Anything more I find on the 'browsing problem' I'll 
post in a new thread with a different title since it's a different 
problem.

Adam, thanks again for the pointer,

regards, Ron