where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
On 29 May 2015 at 13:59, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
xfce mailing list xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
As a consultant you should know the answer to this... it depends.
If the problem is large with what seems to be multiple items then the report should probably start on the list and then with guidance on if the problem is repeatable by others those components in bugzilla. If the problem is not repeatable then it can be good to figure out why only certain systems are seeing it.
If the problem is with a specific application in the spin, then file it in bugzilla on that application.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:59:38PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
Depends. If it's a problem with a particular package, file a bug against that package.
On 05/29/2015 01:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:59:38PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
Depends. If it's a problem with a particular package, file a bug against that package.
The problem is with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso, specifically the way it installs things to a flash drive such that it won't boot up afterwards.
On Fri, 29 May 2015 13:43:07 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
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The problem is with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso, specifically the way it installs things to a flash drive such that it won't boot up afterwards.
I guessing you used a third party tool to get it onto the usb?
If it's liveusb-creator (originally by Luke Macken), bugzilla would probably be the way to go similat to this F21 bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1149782
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On 07/06/2015 10:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 13:43:07 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
<snipped/> > The problem is with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso, specifically > the way it installs things to a flash drive such that it won't > boot up afterwards. > >
I guessing you used a third party tool to get it onto the usb?
If it's liveusb-creator (originally by Luke Macken), bugzilla would probably be the way to go similat to this F21 bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1149782
Hi Frank,
I wanted to report an Xfce problem with the spin. And the guy who does that reads this mailing list and I did report it to him.
Thank you for the help with this, -T
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 01:27:30 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Frank,
I wanted to report an Xfce problem with the spin. And the guy who does that reads this mailing list and I did report it to him.
Are you refering to me? (There are several folks involved in making the spin)
Could you describe your problem in more detail?
"the way it installs things to a flash drive such that it won't boot up afterwards."
Is this transfering the image to a usb, then it doesn't boot? Or this is after you have booted the usb and installed and are trying to install to a flash drive, and that install doesn't boot? Or something else?
kevin
On 07/07/2015 06:03 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 01:27:30 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Frank,
I wanted to report an Xfce problem with the spin. And the guy who does that reads this mailing list and I did report it to him.
Are you refering to me? (There are several folks involved in making the spin)
Could you describe your problem in more detail?
"the way it installs things to a flash drive such that it won't boot up afterwards."
Is this transfering the image to a usb, then it doesn't boot? Or this is after you have booted the usb and installed and are trying to install to a flash drive, and that install doesn't boot? Or something else?
kevin
Hi Kevin,
Yes, it was you I spoke of. We had a great dialog. I was pleased with the outcome. I complained, you listened.
Getting the thing to boot in certain computers is an absolute pain in the neck. Specifically, those from Supermicro, but there are others.
I finally gave up and made a direct install stick. That did not work with FC22 Xfce's spin either. Wouldn't boot for its life.
So I switched to the (really weird) FC22 gnome spin and that worked perfectly. I then group installed Xfce and it has been fine since. It boots everything that will boot a USB.
FC21's Xfce live did not have this problem, either on Live USB or direct install.
Basically FC22 Xfce is only good for creating Live DVD's.
Never had a problem boot any of the above off HP's el-cheap-o computers, which puzzled me greatly.
A lot of the issues are that FC22 Live sets up grub.cfg to device by its direct dev (/dev/sda) instead of by its UUID. Gnome does UUID. The sdx floats all over the place, depending on what computer you install it into.
But switching to UUID only solved some issues.
Right now, it is not a big issue for me. I did the direct install to an old fashioned partitions and can use the stick as a flash drive as well as a boot stick. I am tickled to death with it and use it about three time a week on customer sites. I have it cherried out to my needs.
-T
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:18:25 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Yes, it was you I spoke of. We had a great dialog. I was pleased with the outcome. I complained, you listened.
Getting the thing to boot in certain computers is an absolute pain in the neck. Specifically, those from Supermicro, but there are others.
I finally gave up and made a direct install stick. That did not work with FC22 Xfce's spin either. Wouldn't boot for its life.
So I switched to the (really weird) FC22 gnome spin and that worked perfectly. I then group installed Xfce and it has been fine since. It boots everything that will boot a USB.
FC21's Xfce live did not have this problem, either on Live USB or direct install.
Basically FC22 Xfce is only good for creating Live DVD's.
Thats pretty weird to me. It works fine for me here in all my tests.
Additionally, the F22 Xfce spin is made with the exact same livecd-tools, kernel, anaconda and packages that the workstation one is made from. The only difference is the package set. Booting and such should be the exact same on both.
Never had a problem boot any of the above off HP's el-cheap-o computers, which puzzled me greatly.
A lot of the issues are that FC22 Live sets up grub.cfg to device by its direct dev (/dev/sda) instead of by its UUID. Gnome does UUID. The sdx floats all over the place, depending on what computer you install it into.
But switching to UUID only solved some issues.
Right now, it is not a big issue for me. I did the direct install to an old fashioned partitions and can use the stick as a flash drive as well as a boot stick. I am tickled to death with it and use it about three time a week on customer sites. I have it cherried out to my needs.
ok, cool. If you are happy then great....
kevin
On 07/09/2015 01:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:18:25 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Yes, it was you I spoke of. We had a great dialog. I was pleased with the outcome. I complained, you listened.
Getting the thing to boot in certain computers is an absolute pain in the neck. Specifically, those from Supermicro, but there are others.
I finally gave up and made a direct install stick. That did not work with FC22 Xfce's spin either. Wouldn't boot for its life.
So I switched to the (really weird) FC22 gnome spin and that worked perfectly. I then group installed Xfce and it has been fine since. It boots everything that will boot a USB.
FC21's Xfce live did not have this problem, either on Live USB or direct install.
Basically FC22 Xfce is only good for creating Live DVD's.
Thats pretty weird to me. It works fine for me here in all my tests.
Additionally, the F22 Xfce spin is made with the exact same livecd-tools, kernel, anaconda and packages that the workstation one is made from. The only difference is the package set. Booting and such should be the exact same on both.
Never had a problem boot any of the above off HP's el-cheap-o computers, which puzzled me greatly.
A lot of the issues are that FC22 Live sets up grub.cfg to device by its direct dev (/dev/sda) instead of by its UUID. Gnome does UUID. The sdx floats all over the place, depending on what computer you install it into.
But switching to UUID only solved some issues.
Right now, it is not a big issue for me. I did the direct install to an old fashioned partitions and can use the stick as a flash drive as well as a boot stick. I am tickled to death with it and use it about three time a week on customer sites. I have it cherried out to my needs.
ok, cool. If you are happy then great....
kevin
Hi Kevin, This may help. This is the various "linux16" from various grub.cfg. I didn't keep one for FC21 XFce.
FC22 GNome line 84:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64+debug root=UUID=d9ad5224-8ae4-47a0-957c-251a80942f31 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
FC22 Xfce:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64 root=/dev/sda2 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:37:29 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Kevin, This may help. This is the various "linux16" from various grub.cfg. I didn't keep one for FC21 XFce.
FC22 GNome line 84:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64+debug root=UUID=d9ad5224-8ae4-47a0-957c-251a80942f31 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
FC22 Xfce:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64 root=/dev/sda2 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
These are from the _installed_ system? Or the live image on usb?
kevin
On 07/11/2015 10:04 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:37:29 -0700 ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi Kevin, This may help. This is the various "linux16" from various grub.cfg. I didn't keep one for FC21 XFce.
FC22 GNome line 84:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64+debug root=UUID=d9ad5224-8ae4-47a0-957c-251a80942f31 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
FC22 Xfce:
linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64 root=/dev/sda2 ro rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
These are from the _installed_ system? Or the live image on usb?
kevin
Live USB
On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:59:38 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
Does everyone else here already know about http://forum.xfce.org/ index.php ?? (I didn't till this afternoon.) I suspect it's one reason this list (which I follow, as I do everything I can, on Gmane) carries so much les traffic than Gmane's fedora.general.
On 05/29/2015 10:59 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
Check this: http://goo.gl/ZJhXkp It should help.
On 07/06/2015 01:20 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 05/29/2015 10:59 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
where do you report problems with Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-22-3.iso?
Check this: http://goo.gl/ZJhXkp It should help.
Hi Mihamina,
Doesn't help. A bit condescending too. I presume you meant well. Thanks anyway, -T
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