Re: LVM should not be used by default with FC3
by David Hollis
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 01:24 -0700, Nathan G. Grennan wrote:
>
> Yes, at a higher level it does make things simpler. But at a lower level
> it makes things much more complex, and the lower level will come out
> when something breaks. In most cases you could solve the running out of
> disk space problem by just making everything one big partition. I don't
> have a problem with LVM, I just have a problem with as the default,
> which will effect the newbies more than anyone else. As for SELinux, I
> think it needs a lot of work before it is ready for prime time.
>
> I think the best thing to do if developers are determined to go down
> this road is to make it a boot option or something, but not make it the
> default for now. All the cases need to be covered first. Does this work
> with rescue mode? Will it cause any issues with users trying to
> reinstall grub with grub-install?
In taking a look at my fairly fresh laptop install (network install of
rawhide circa 9/25 or so), it partitioned my 30GB drive into a
100MB /boot partition and the rest as LVM. My /etc/fstab entries look
like:
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults
1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults
1 2
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swap swap defaults
0 0
The grub argument appears to be a non-issue, my boot partition is not
part of LVM. Doesn't look too complex to me. Granted, I may not be
able to use that boot floppy with a 2.2.0 kernel from 8 years ago to
rescue the system since it probably won't have LVM tools on it, but the
Fedora rescue CD or Knoppix will probably work just fine.
Additionally, during the installation I just did the auto-partition
option as always and Anaconda did all the hard work setting everything
up for. From my end-user perspective, it's not more complex at all. I
also like the thought of being able to upgrade to a larger drive in the
future by simply joining it to the group, moving all the data and
resizing it. Pretty slick.
--
David Hollis <dhollis(a)davehollis.com>
19 years, 7 months
Re: LVM should not be used by default with FC3
by Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 01:36, Nathan Grennan wrote:
> I have been heard from multiple sources that LVM will be used by
> anaconda when using automatic partitioning. I think this is a very bad
> idea. It breaks the KISS(Keep it simple stupid) principle. I have
> personally used LVM in the past and currently use software raid. Both
> are powerful and wonderful features, but in most cases are overkill,
> make things more complex, and make life hell when something like grub or
> init scripts break.
How exactly would LVM make things complex? Shuffling data around when
you need to have more space than your physical partition can hold is
complex, having your system setup in a way that you can easily(*) extend
filesystems or move them from physical disks on the verge of breaking to
new disks(**) is not.
(*) e.g. with LVM1, when /scratch is to small:
umount /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
e2fsadm.lvm1 -L +5G /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
mount /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
or with LVM2 (we really need to have e2fsadm.lvm2 or better yet a script
that can detect whether t operates on LVM1 or LVM2):
umount /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
lvm lvextend -L +5G /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
resize2fs /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
mount /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
or with FC3 kernels and tools even online:
lvm lvextend -L +5G /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
ext2online /dev/vg00/lv_scratch
(**) e.g. smartd warns you that /dev/sdb which contains the physical
volume /dev/sdb1 is about to fail, so you do simply:
plug in a new disk (say /dev/sdc)
create first partition of type 8e (Linux LVM)
lvm pvcreate /dev/sdc1
lvm vgextend vg00 /dev/sdc1
lvm pvmove /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
This all is simple (albeit not stupid ;-).
Nils
--
Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759
PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011
19 years, 7 months
Re: LVM should not be used by default with FC3
by Nathan Grennan
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 17:21 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Not using LVM makes things more complex if the partition sizes you choose at
> install time end up not matching the type of data you install. That then
> leads to doing nasty things like moving trees of files to a different file
> system and having sym-links between them which among other things causes
> problems with SE Linux.
>
Yes, at a higher level it does make things simpler. But at a lower level
it makes things much more complex, and the lower level will come out
when something breaks. In most cases you could solve the running out of
disk space problem by just making everything one big partition. I don't
have a problem with LVM, I just have a problem with as the default,
which will effect the newbies more than anyone else. As for SELinux, I
think it needs a lot of work before it is ready for prime time.
I think the best thing to do if developers are determined to go down
this road is to make it a boot option or something, but not make it the
default for now. All the cases need to be covered first. Does this work
with rescue mode? Will it cause any issues with users trying to
reinstall grub with grub-install?
19 years, 7 months
Re: LVM should not be used by default with FC3
by Russell Coker
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:36, Nathan Grennan <fedora-devel-list(a)cygnusx-1.org>
wrote:
> I have been heard from multiple sources that LVM will be used by
> anaconda when using automatic partitioning. I think this is a very bad
> idea. It breaks the KISS(Keep it simple stupid) principle. I have
> personally used LVM in the past and currently use software raid. Both
> are powerful and wonderful features, but in most cases are overkill,
> make things more complex, and make life hell when something like grub or
> init scripts break.
Not using LVM makes things more complex if the partition sizes you choose at
install time end up not matching the type of data you install. That then
leads to doing nasty things like moving trees of files to a different file
system and having sym-links between them which among other things causes
problems with SE Linux.
In many ways LVM is the simple way of doing it!
--
http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages
http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark
http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark
http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
19 years, 7 months
LVM should not be used by default with FC3
by Nathan Grennan
I have been heard from multiple sources that LVM will be used by
anaconda when using automatic partitioning. I think this is a very bad
idea. It breaks the KISS(Keep it simple stupid) principle. I have
personally used LVM in the past and currently use software raid. Both
are powerful and wonderful features, but in most cases are overkill,
make things more complex, and make life hell when something like grub or
init scripts break.
19 years, 7 months
rawhide report: 20041001 changes
by Build System
New package RealPlayer
Media player from RealNetworks based on Helix
New package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat
JPackage runtime scripts for GCJ
Updated Packages:
HelixPlayer-1.0.gold-6
----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1.0.gold-6
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
SDL_image-1.2.3-6
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Thomas Woerner <twoerner(a)redhat.com> 1.2.3-6
- moved to new autofoo utils
SDL_mixer-1.2.5-4
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Thomas Woerner <twoerner(a)redhat.com> 1.2.5-4
- moved to new autofoo utils
abiword-2.0.12-3
----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1:2.0.12-3
- Change to PreReq instead of Requires(post), up to 0.9
* Wed Sep 29 2004 Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> 1:2.0.12-2
- Better Requires desktop-file-utils
anaconda-10.0.3.9-1
-------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 10.0.3.9-1
- translation updates
- Install compat-arch-support by default (#133514)
- Warn if an older version is chosen for upgrading if product is RHEL (#134523)
- Fix traceback on upgrade with possible lvm1 (#134258)
- Make changing the DNS server work (#122554)
- More fixes from pnasrat for arch handling on upgrade
bug-buddy-2.8.0-3
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com>
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
cdparanoia-alpha9.8-22
----------------------
* Wed Jul 07 2004 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> alpha9.8-21sgio1
- a new set of sgio patches
comps-extras-10.0-1
-------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 10.0-1
- add xfce images
* Thu Apr 15 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 9.92-1
- image tweaks
* Sun Nov 23 2003 Florian La Roche <Florian.LaRoche(a)redhat.de>
- change getnotincomps.py /usr/bin/python2.2 -> /usr/bin/python
desktop-backgrounds-2.0-26
--------------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.0-26
- New default background infrastructure.
dovecot-0.99.11-1.FC3.3
-----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 John Dennis <jdennis(a)redhat.com> 0.99.11-1.FC3.3
- fix bug #124786, listen to ipv6 as well as ipv4
eog-2.8.0-3
-----------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 2.8.0-3
- Prereq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
- update-desktop-database on uninstall
fedora-logos-1.1.27-1
---------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 1.1.27-1
- fix kde splash
fetchmail-6.2.5-6
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 John Dennis <jdennis(a)redhat.com> 6.2.5-6
- fix bug #113492
after expunge, dovecot hangs fetchmail if new e-mail came in
file-roller-2.8.0-4
-------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 2.8.0-4
- Prereq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
findutils-4.1.20-4
------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:4.1.20-4
- Set re->translate before re_compile_pattern (bug #134190).
firefox-0.10.0-1.0PR1.6
-----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 0:0.10.0-1.0PR1.6
- Prereq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 0:0.10.0-1.0PR1.5
- Add clipboard access prevention patch.
gamin-0.0.12-1
--------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.0.12-1
- potential fix for a hard to reproduce looping problem.
* Mon Sep 27 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.0.11-1
- update to the latest version of inotify
- inotify support compiled in by default
- fix ABI FAM compatibility problems #133162
* Tue Sep 21 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.0.10-1
- more documentation
- Added support for a configuration file $HOME/.gaminrc
- fixes FAM compatibility issues with FAMErrno and FamErrlist #132944
gdm-2.6.0.5-3
-------------
* Wed Sep 29 2004 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> 1:2.6.0.5-3
- Check if there is a selected node before using iterator.
(fixes bug #133329).
gimp-2.0.5-3
------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com>
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
* Sun Sep 26 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com>
- fix post/postun requirements
* Sat Sep 25 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com>
- version 2.0.5
glibc-2.3.3-61
--------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jakub Jelinek <jakub(a)redhat.com> 2.3.3-61
- update from CVS
- some nscd fixes (#134193)
- cache initgroups in nscd (#132850)
- reread /etc/localtime in tzset () even if just mtime changed
(#133481)
- fix glob (#126460)
- another get_myaddress fix
gnome-games-2.8.0-2
-------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 GNOME <jrb(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.8.0-2
- fix crasher, #134256
gnome-panel-2.8.0.1-2
---------------------
* Fri Oct 01 2004 Mark McLoughlin <markmc(a)redhat.com> 2.8.0.1-1
- New panel layout from Bryan and Seth
gnome-utils-2.8.0-4
-------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1:2.8.0-4
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
- update-desktop-database on uninstall
* Tue Sep 28 2004 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> 1:2.8.0-3
- Hide Search Tool from menus using spec file foo instead of patch file
gnumeric-1.2.13-6
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1.2.13-6
- Change Requires(post) to PreReq
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> 1.2.13-5
- #rh134250# improve Requires: desktop-file-utils
grub-0.95-3
-----------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 0.95-3
- don't act on the keypress for the menu (#134029)
hal-cups-utils-0.5.2-2
----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 John (J5) Palmieri <johnp(a)redhat.com>
- Patch to use sighup on cups instead of restarting it
hwdata-0.136-1
--------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> - 0.136-1
- add S3 UniChrome (#131403)
- update pci.ids
icon-slicer-0.3-6
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.3-6
- Correct order of attachpoints
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.3-5
- Add patch that lets you order attachpoints
iiimf-le-chinput-0.3-11
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 01 2004 Yu Shao <yshao(a)redhat.com> 0.3-11
- fix bug 131213 aux is still on when apps are closed
im-sdk-12.0.1-11.svn1943
------------------------
* Fri Oct 01 2004 Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> - 1:12.0.1-11.svn1943
- iiimsf-fix-htt-retrycounter.patch: applied to decrease the retrycounter when
htt_server died unfortunately with any signal event.
* Fri Oct 01 2004 Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com>
- iiimqcf re-enabled for now (still experimental)
- improve iiimqcf.pro-build.patch to use rpath to find iiim libs and
link against libs in buildtree
- install plugin in inputmethods/
- pass LIBDIR to qmake when building
- disable freewnnLE and update comment about it
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Leon Ho <llch(a)redhat.com> - 1:12.0.1-10.svn1943
- add usermod to 'upgrade' existing user to proper home dir
jpackage-utils-1.5.38-1jpp_3rh
------------------------------
* Thu Aug 26 2004 Thomas Fitzsimmons <fitzsim(a)redhat.com> 0:1.5.38-1jpp_3rh
- Bump release number for RHEL4.
libgnomecups-0.1.12-4
---------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 0.1.12-4
- Change group to Development/Libraries (131688)
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 0.1.12-3
- Pass --with-dbus=yes to configure to be extra sure
- Add libgnomecups-no-gnome-common.patch
- autoreconf to pick up configure changes
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 0.1.12-2
- Pass --with-dbus to configure
- BuildRequire dbus-devel
libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2
-----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.8.0-2
- Fix display of queue length in the print dialog
mkinitrd-4.1.14-1
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 4.1.14-1
- support changing root on the kernel command line with lvm (#133236)
mozilla-1.7.3-11
----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 37:1.7.3-11
- Hide Mozilla from the Internet menu.
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 37:1.7.3-10
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
net-tools-1.60-37
-----------------
* Wed Sep 29 2004 Radek Vokal <rvokal(a)redhat.com> 1.60-37
- spec file updated, added conversion for french and portugal man pages to UTF-8
ntp-4.2.0.a.20040617-2
----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 4.2.0.a.20040617-2
- set pool.ntp.org as the default timeserver pool
openmotif-2.2.3-6
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Thomas Woerner <twoerner(a)redhat.com> 2.2.3-6
- fixed CAN-2004-0687 (integer overflows) and CAN-2004-0688 (stack overflows)
in embedded Xpm library
redhat-artwork-0.108-1
----------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 0.108-1
- Add missing desktop/folder_locked/folder symlink
- Set SmallSizes=16 and SmallDefault=16 for KDE
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.105-2.1E
- RHEL build
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.105-2
- Rebuild with corrected icon-slicer to fix attach point order.
rhgb-0.13.4-1
-------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.13.4
- updated the localization strings
rhpl-0.147-1
------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 0.147-1
- let Conf.ConfModules use modprobe.conf name and format (bug 131952)
- use network script resolv.conf merger/changer (bug 132485)
* Fri Sep 24 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- require python (#133462)
rhythmbox-0.8.7-2
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 0.8.7-2
- PreReq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
rp-pppoe-3.5-17
---------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 3.5-17
- fix idle parameter in asdl connect
rpmdb-fedora-2.92-0.20041001
----------------------------
rsync-2.6.3-1
-------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jay Fenlason <fenlason(a)redhat.com> 2.6.3-1
- New upstream release.
selinux-policy-strict-1.17.25-1
-------------------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.25-1
- Update from NSA
- more inetd fixes, mozilla fixes
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.24-4
- Minor fixes
- Fix snmpd.te to allow creation of /var/net-snmp
selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.25-1
---------------------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.25-1
- Minor fixes
- Fix snmpd.te to allow creation of /var/net-snmp
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.24-4
- Minor fixes
- Fix snmpd.te to allow creation of /var/net-snmp
* Wed Sep 29 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.24-3
- Add tvtime
swig-1.3.21-5
-------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 1.3.21-5
- don't output -L$libdir in -ldflags
system-config-printer-0.6.114-1
-------------------------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 0.6.114-1
- 0.6.114:
- Allow control codes in text-only printing (bug #124250).
- More robustness in validating SMB queue information (bug #127348).
- Include more translations (bug #133721).
tetex-2.0.2-21
--------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 2.0.2-21
- Prereq desktop-file-utils >= 0.9
udev-032-6
----------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 032-6
- prevent error message from device copying
- use already translated starting strings
vixie-cron-4.1-17
-----------------
* Thu Sep 30 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 4.1-17
- Users not allowed to use 'crontab mycrontab', while
- 'crontab < mycrontab' allowed; this is because misc.c's
- swap_uids_back() was not using save_euid / save_egid .
- Thanks to Mads Martin Joergensen <mmj(a)suse.de> for pointing this out.
19 years, 7 months
Re: Rant on LABELs
by Pádraig Brady
A few datapoints.
The labels are not parsed by the kernel, initrd does it.
One could use a "labelindex" option in addition, to select between
identical LABELs. I've implemented this on my system there are 2
identical root filesystems on disk so that on upgrade the unused one
is written and booted to. The patch to mkinitrd to support this is
attached.
Note by having 2 root filesystems (in conjuction with a hardware
watchdog, and the savedefault --once option in grub) allows one to
construct a system that is much less likely to ever hang, as
it can failback to the origonal root partition that it was running.
The latest version of lilo (22.6) allows root=LABEL=blah
in the config file
Pádraig.
19 years, 7 months
Re: Rant on LABELs
by Enrico Scholz
cmadams(a)hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) writes:
>> ACK. Especially because only the RH kernel supports labeled
>> root-devices. With every other kernel you will run into kernel
>> panics since the 'root=LABEL=/' is not understood.
>
> The Red Hat kernels don't support mounting root by label either.
Oh... but this does not make the label thing better. initrd images are
superfluously in most cases and are making the booting yet more slow. It is
stupid that the FC kernel package (resp. /sbin/new-kernel-pkg) creates
LABEL entries in grub.conf although already existing templates have working
device-names.
Enrico
19 years, 7 months
Re: Rant on LABELs
by Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steven P. Ulrick <ulrick2(a)faith4miracle.org> said:
> Hello, Everyone :)
> I was kind of confused by the above statement. So I looked at my /etc/fstab,
> and I found the following:
> LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
>
> I am running Fedora Core 2, with the latest Fedora Core 2 kernel.
And the kernel doesn't do the mount. There is an initial ramdisk image
that is used to do the mount-by-LABEL bit (as well as LVM and software
RAID startup and other things). It is possible to use the same initrd
creation for non-FC kernels; just use mkinitrd. There is nothing
"magic" in the Red Hat built kernels.
Also, what is in /etc/fstab doesn't really matter for initially mounting
the root filesystem. What matters is what is on the kernel command
line, usually set in /boot/grub/grub.conf.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
19 years, 7 months
Re: Rant on LABELs
by David Hollis
On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 11:14 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 16:06 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > Just got caught again by this LABEL nonsense.
> > I was mounting my laptop hard disk on my desktop -
> > both running Fedora-
> > and the whole thing was thrown into confusion
> > because there were two partitions LABELed "/",
> > on my desktop hard disk and on the laptop hard disk.
> >
> > I had to start again in single mode,
> > and change all the entries in /etc/fstab and /etc/grub.conf .
> That's a common problem when adding hdd's with other fedora installs.
>
> How about generating a random integer at install time, and use it to
> label partitions like
> /_5643
> /home_5643
> /boot_5643
> ...
> and reference these in fstab / grub.conf? Could this create problems?
>
>
I think this would largely remove any of the benefits of labeling. Yes,
if you have two partitions labeled "/" or "/boot", you get conflicts.
This is expected and the sysadmin should be aware of this, boot into
single user and re-label one of the partitions to something else. Thats
just how life goes. In other cases, it's a beautiful thing. Now I
don't have to remember if it's /dev/hda2, /dev/sdc5, or whatever, it's
just LABEL=/.
--
David Hollis <dhollis(a)davehollis.com>
19 years, 7 months