[fab] brand v. proprietary

[Christopher Blizzard]

I don't know much about the devnation stuff that Red Hat was going to do 
in the first place.  Can you give us a little more background?

--Chris

Karsten Wade wrote:
> Based on recent discussions, I think it is going to be a non-starter for
> me to further encourage the use of the physical, CollabNet-based
> platform that Developer Nation is running on at devnation.redhat.com.
> I'm not entirely withdrawing the offer, but I no longer recommend it.
> 
> The Developer Nation brand is another thing, though.  Red Hat is going
> to put considerable effort into this, and the idea of the brand
> separates it a bit from "Red Hat Foo Bar Baz".  Thus ...
> 
> I propose that we extend Developer Nation's non-borders to include
> Fedora and begin work on putting up a FLOSS collaboration suite[1] at
> devnation.fedoraproject.org.
> 
> We lose everything from single-sign and database sharing with
> devnation.redhat.com, but that probably matters less than it appears.
> After all, hyperlinking still works. :)
> 
> The Developer Nation idea is nation without borders because we are
> trying to dissolve traditional barriers to community and collaboration
> that corporate walls create.  In that sense, Fedora is not already
> within the Developer Nation, but is actually one of the leaders we all
> need to watch and embrace.  My proposal is to formalize that
> relationship and wrap infrastructure around it.
> 
> If you do want to take advantage of Red Hat's offer in this case, I'll
> continue work on resolving how to make *.devnation.fedoraproject.org do
> the right thing.
> 
> If we want to proceed with identifying and starting up a collaboration
> suite, I volunteer to be on that committee and make it happen.
> 
> - Karsten
> 
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