[Fwd: Fedora & openSUSE meeting / cooperation ?]

[Christopher Blizzard]

Luis Villa wrote:
>> We're trying to make it pretty easy.  We have a bunch of tools that lets
>> you build an rpm locally, a "local build service" if you want to play
>> rhetorical games.  How we allow third parties be able to distribute and
>> let other people know that they have compatible software is a different
>> issue.  That's the kind of thing that I've been pushing us towards as
>> well.  The pieces that Jesse and others are working on are the
>> beginnings of that.
> 
> Ah, I may be missing information on what jesse and others are doing- 
> pointers?

Lots of tools that already exist - mock, plague, next pungi, which will 
let you compose your own distribution.  Not the same goal as the build 
service (upload once, build for everyone) but can handle a lot of that. 
  i.e. it contains configs all the way back to Red Hat 7.3, iirc. 
Wouldn't be too hard to point those at suse configs or whatever. 
Debian/Ubuntu is harder, of course, but probably not impossible.

Also, thomasvs might have a bunch of tools for this.  I think that he's 
revived mach (as opposed to mock.)

> I would love to talk with you about this at some point; I'm currently
> drafting a blog post which basically says that not working with
> mozilla was GNOME's biggest mistake of the post-2.0 era. (A mistake
> that I played a significant role in, I might add :/

Yeah, that's an entirely different discussion - one that I come down on 
both sides of from time to time.  i.e. Havoc thinks we should have done 
a GNOME browser and worked with the Firefox folks to call it Firefox. 
They didn't want to do that, so we ended up with a pretty poorly 
integrated browser experience on Linux.

But I don't think that's what you're talking about.  I want to replicate 
parts of that model for GNOME and Fedora, but not integration with 
firefox so much as learning how they distribute and promote the software 
they have.

--Chris