why I'm using Ubuntu instead of Fedora ATM

[Bill Nottingham]

Greg Dekoenigsberg (gdk at redhat.com) said: 
> >>Strongly agreed. I more and more think we need a "Fedora Experimental
> >>Kitchen" project where stuff that's not yet covered by the Fedora
> >>Project can be developed while the users feel as being a part of the
> >>Fedora project -> this would help getting people involved and grow up.
> >>
> >>Kmods, alternate kernels, Firefox2 for FC6, Respins, Live-CDs, new
> >>Distributions Spins (Fedora Audio, Fedora BrandNewIdea anyone?) could be
> >>suitable to be done under the hood of the "Fedora Experimental Kitchen".
> >
> >OK, you've lost me. How is adding an experimental repo for highly
> >technical things (kmods, alternate kernels, etc) about embracing
> >the non-engineering community?
> 
> It's not.  It's about embracing the influential communities of developers 
> who are trying to Get Shit Done -- which is, from my perspective, even 
> *more* important.  If Fedora becomes the platform from which innovators 
> choose to share their innovations, Fedora becomes stronger.  It's all 
> about the applications.

OK. That's different from what Luis said, though. :)

> >>I'm wondering if we could provide solutions for both users: One update
> >>channel that only gets security updates and important bugfixes while the
> >>other is a bit more bold -- we for example could have firefox2 in the
> >>bold channel for FC6 while shipping the latest firefox 1.5.x in the more
> >>conservative channel.
> >
> >So, an idea like this:
> >
> >- starts to exponentially expand the QA problem
> 
> Bill, I love you, but I'm going to have to call bullshit on this one. 
> The answer is not "avoid making QA harder", the answer is to SOLVE THE QA 
> PROBLEM.

Sure, but which of these plans make more sense:

1)

- Solve the QA problem for our repo configurations as they exist
- Expand the QA solution to new, multiple, disparate and conflicting
  repositories
  
2)

- Expand into new, multiple, disparate and conflicting repositories
- Then try to solve the QA problem

Honestly, before we can do multiple experimental repositories of this,
that, and the other, we need to get our *OWN* house in order.

Bill