Response to "Getting Fedora Out of the If-Then Loop"

Thomas Janssen thomasj at
Fri Feb 19 16:25:08 UTC 2010

2010/2/19 Josh Boyer <jwboyer at>:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 04:40:55PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
>>> There's a reality here that's not being acknowledged, and it has little
>>> to do with popularity. I hope folks who work on XFCE or KDE in Fedora
>>> don't come into those projects with the expectation that the same amount
>>> of resources are dedicated to those as the desktop spin - because that's
>>> never been true, and I sure hope they've not been misled into thinking
>>> so.
>>Well, gladly there are other projects where things like that just
>>works. For example openSUSE.
>>But i would be interested in what you think what will happen with
>>Fedora if all the unwanted (it sounds exactly like that to me)
>>developers leave and Fedora is left behind with only GNOME?
>>Is that your perfect future?
> Why would they leave?

Because they get pushed out by reading over and over again how
unwanted they are? That's exactly the impression i get.
Feel free to work on whatever you want but dont expect anything.
People come by, start to like Fedora (for whatever reasons), stay,
start to contribute (not speaking of GNOME/Desktop/Default
contributors) and get treated like disabled persons from time to time.
That starts with the discussions about the "Desktop" spin. Just try
and see it from a different point of view. Not only GNOME is a
Desktop. But if you simply want to discuss that point, you get flamed
from people who are afraid of their job/being #1/i have no idea what
else (GNOME people), that it was always like that and it will ever be.
There was just the try to discuss the interesting name "Desktop" spin.
And one/the very well argument is, there are more Desktops.
But anyways. Not rolling that one again.

There is a lot more, but i'm not the right one to discuss this. I
contribute in different ways (FAS thomasj). I still like Fedora, but
my english and most likely my knowledge of the deeps of Fedora, are
way to bad to discuss that with native english speakers and real

I just wanted to point out the impression that i (and not only i) get.

LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium

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