Response to "Getting Fedora Out of the If-Then Loop"

Paul W. Frields stickster at
Fri Feb 19 20:59:55 UTC 2010

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:17:10PM -0600, Adam Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> >> All I have ever done through out this entire obfuscated campaign in
> >> search of a defined "target audience" is ask questions for
> >> clarification. I'm not here to yell and freak out about what the
> >> Board is doing, I still don't know enough to really start doing that
> >> or decide that I like what's going on and go along with it.  I am
> >> not here to undermine the Board, just ask questions about things
> >> that concern me so that I can attempt to understand where the Board
> >> is coming from and where they are trying to go.
> >
> > We generated this list here some time ago through soliciting community
> > input and parsing through some of the difficult discussions of the
> > last year:
> >
> >
> >
> Right, I do appreciate this, but when I brought up questions about
> that exact wiki page it turned into a 100+ thread on the mailing list
> as more and more people chimed in about their misunderstanding of the
> points outlined on this page. At this point I feel that those bits are
> cleared up. I have a better understanding of what the Board is trying
> to do, I don't have any objections at this time, and I don't want it
> to seem as though I am trying to start fires or undermine anyone's
> efforts. This truly was all for the sake of clarification, or that was
> at least the intention.
> > The Board formed a working group to make headway on these issues
> > because a single weekly meeting wasn't allowing us to do that.  We're
> > making steady progress each week, and we work on all of this
> > transparently.  I believe that Matt Domsch, in fact, has been
> > discussing one of our current issues with the Spins SIG directly on
> > their list.  I certainly hope you're taking the opportunity to be
> > involved there if it's of interest.
> <SNIP>
> The Spins SIG discussed this in our last meeting. I don't know who
> will be delivering the "official statement" on it though so I won't
> really speak to this as I don't feel I a am in a place to really speak
> for the entire SIG but I did participate in the discussion.

Thanks for writing this Adam.  As I said in another message to John,
these types of thoughtful comments are very much appreciated and
valued by the Board.  We want everyone including you to feel valued in
the project while we find ways to improve our leadership in free

Paul W. Frields                      
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