Response to "Getting Fedora Out of the If-Then Loop"
christoph.wickert at googlemail.com
Sat Feb 20 19:37:32 UTC 2010
Am Freitag, den 19.02.2010, 14:33 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating:
> It was my understanding that spins were going to be a serve yourself
> kind of thing.
This applies to so many things in Fedora. You can do what you like, but
don't expect any support. So Thomas' question was right: Why would
people continue contributing to Fedora if they are just tolerated but
> As stated, there is only so many resources to go around,
> and in order to provide 9!! spin flavors, you're not going to get
> anything out of releng other than running the command to make the image
> show up and shoving it over to the torrent server.
Yesterday I already said I don't want 9 other spins but only for the
alternative desktops LXDE and Xfce. Why do I think that these spins are
more important than the others? It's not because these are "my" spins
* the selection of the desktop is something users consider before
they install. On the other hand I doubt they think about the
games or the design apps they want to have in advance. So the
desktop spins are fundamentally different from say the games
spin or FEL (which is hosted at alt.fp.o btw).
* although Xfce and LXDE are already in anaconda when you have an
internet connection, you cannot just select one and go. Instead
you have to select a custom package selection and uncheck all
the GNOME defaults and select your favorite apps. Otherwise the
result is not much different from the desktop spin because all
the GNOME stuff is pulled in as dependencies. As long as we
don't have a smarter installer, we *need* these spins.
Wait, what about Moblin and Sugar?
* Sugar is a very specialized desktop that only works properly on
certain hardware. Although I contribute to sugar too, I don't
consider it a complete desktop environment.
* Moblin is no spin but a remix, so it's a completely different
situation. The current Moblin is GNOME based and shares a lot of
apps with the desktop spin. Nobody knows what the future of
MeeGo will look like, so it's not very wise to advocate it ATM.
Anyway, the direct downloads were just one example of what I consider
proper support for the spins community. I was told that we don't have
the resources to host them several times, but so far nobody named any
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