Planet Fedora guidelines?

Robyn Bergeron robyn.bergeron at gmail.com
Fri Jun 18 20:32:29 UTC 2010


2010/6/18 Máirín Duffy <duffy at fedoraproject.org>:
> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 13:53 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
>> If this discussion were happening on an Ubuntu list because they were
>> butthurt about a Fedora contributor joining their planet and put up a
>> huge Fedora logo, I'd be having a damned fine laugh at their expense.
>>
> It would be perfectly rational for them to be bothered by it if that was
> the case.
>
> Why do we have separate planets? Hmmm. Why don't we just have one planet
> with all contributors from all distros?
>
>> Instead, *we* come across as being butthurt about Ooboontoo.  Plain
>> and simple.  Makes me sad.
>
>> But if we can't envision a situation in which a post with a gigantic
>> ooboontoo logo might just belong on the Fedora planet from time to
>> time, then I think we're being reactionary and insecure.  And this
>> isn't just Mo, either.  I think a deep insecurity about ooboontoo has
>> taken
>
> Wow, this is being blown way out of proportion to be an ubuntu-specific
> problem, or to be some deep-rooted psychosis or insecurity. It's not. I
> could really care less about posts having something to do with ubuntu
> being posted to our planet. What seems obnoxious to me is an ubuntu logo
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> Front and center on the planet, with two lines of content in a
> non-lingua franca language I certainly don't understand, linking to a
> site that appears to be selling something and is definitely asking for a
> lot more personal information than any free / open project would ever
> need to know.
>
> This, at the same time ubuntu themselves [1] are being attacked on
> identi.ca, I made the assumption (perhaps unfair, perhaps rash) that
> this could be a similar attack on Fedora. Certainly an account *just*
> added to planet behaving in this way seems way more suspicious than say
> a planet contributor who's at least been around for a few weeks and has
> actually made at least one post about *fedora*, who happens to make a
> random post (hopefully with enough lines of content to dwarf the hugeass
> logo) about ubuntu or any other distro.

If we want to make it a requirement that people have been around a
while, then so be it.  It should also be a requirement that if we're
going to make conclusions about the content people are creating - we
should probably actually look at their history and see what they've
been up to. I prefer to err on the side of giving people the benefit
of the doubt rather than assume the worst.  If we do want to assume
the worst anyway, then I'd suggest a waiting period after signing the
CLA before one can have their feed aggregated into planet, for the
sole purpose of eliminating people who are going through that whole
process just to become a advertising mechanism.

This guy has been making numerous blog posts on Fedora, both on this
blog and on his previous blog.  Granted, he's relatively new since
June - but he's put in a number of interesting posts, including one I
just referred sparks to on iptables configuration, as he was looking
for some information on that on the docs-list today.

TBH, his best post I've read was his last one on his previous blog -
http://tumblr.kuu.web.id/ - where he linked to planet.fp.o and said
this:

Planet Fedora

i Think this is the greatest site i ever seen :)

-Robyn


>
> After seeing that social media attack on ubuntu I am thinking, wow,
> *anybody* could sign up for a FAS account, sign up to get a blog
> syndicated to planet, and just troll away. And we don't even have a
> single guideline to prevent them from doing so.
>
> So I apologize if I was rash in asking if it was a problem, and I
> apologize for jumping to a lot of conclusions. But please let's drop the
> Ubuntu psychosis talk because it really isn't relevant.
>
> ~m
>
> [1] http://identi.ca/markshuttlecock , http://identi.ca/jonabacon ,
> http://identi.ca/sjobs
>
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