Bad-mouthing and hostility

[Seth Vidal]

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-09/fesco.2010-03-09-20.00.log.html
>
>> 20:59:11 <dgilmore> Kevin_Kofler: i dont see Michael Schwendt as infulencial.
>>  he choose to largely abstain from fedora years ago
>
> This is one thing that troubles me since yesterday. My reply to devel list
> is unanswered. In particular, I want to learn what this refers to.
>
>
> I'd also like to know whether the following is an example of "lead by
> example", "be excellent to eachother" and "respect"?

But threatening to leave if you don't get your way? That's excellent? 
Making ultimatums, that's respect?



> 20:43:30 <mjg59> The risk is when we have packages where 3 votes is a substantial proportion of the users
> 20:43:45 <skvidal> mjg59: which, imo, makes me wonder why we're shipping those pkgs at all.

How is this anything other than a statement of the case?


> 20:45:30 <cwickert> I know there are people that will leave Fedora if we 
> decide a policy that forbids major updates. both users and contributors 
> 20:45:42 <skvidal> cwickert: people threatening to leave should leave 
> 20:45:48 <skvidal> orphan your packages and go
> 20:45:57 <skvidal> I'll be glad to clean up that mess

Again statement of the obvious. I do not like it when folks try to play 
the "I'll take my ball and go home" card. If you are threatening to leave, 
then  please leave.

> 20:59:12 <skvidal> notting: I'd believe that far out fringe pkgs might 
> fall into the category of things to be removed :)


If we have packages in the distro for which we cannot find enough people 
to test outside of the package maintainer then my question is - who is 
using it? If so few people are using it then aren't we just wasting 
bandwidth and diskspace having it around?

-sv