Group proposal: FEMA, the Fedora Election Management and Administration

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at
Thu Nov 18 01:18:00 UTC 2010

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:27, inode0 <inode0 at> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:24:42 +0100,
>>  "Sandro \"red\" Mathys" <red at> wrote:
>>> I was thinking about why the current elections are going so badly and
>>> how to prevent that in the future, too. But do we really need a new
>>> group to prevent that in the future? I really like your proposal/draft
>>> but is there no existing group that should/could handle the elections?
>> I think the main issue is that no group owned this, so it didn't get on
>> people's radar until things were too close. A group like Larry is proposing
>> seems like a good approach. We still need people to step up to make
>> the group work, but assuming that happens things should work better in the
>> future.
> While my sympathies are to support a group to oversee elections I will
> point out that I think elections have worked pretty well in the past
> without this sort of group. Some introspection on why it worked pretty
> well in 2008/2009 and not now might be useful in suggesting what the
> real points of failure were and how best to correct them going
> forward.

It worked but every person I heard running the elections was serious
burnt out and pissed off at the end of them. They sometimes got better
afterwords but you talk to them right after elections and it always
sounded like too much for one person/volunteer.

I do not know if a committee would be better or not, but it is an
alternative to one man herculean task.

Stephen J Smoogen.
"The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance."
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