Proposal for the new Fedora Project

Mike McGrath mmcgrath at
Fri Oct 1 16:00:59 UTC 2010

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:

> Hash: SHA1
> On 10/1/10 6:45 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, David Nalley wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Mike:
> >>
> >> I find this conversation extremely interesting. I even remember
> >> discussing the importance of fedorahosted with you not too many months
> >> distant. I also see even the 'traditional' desktop folks are talking
> >> about this. At OLF earlier this month, Stormy Peters, the executive
> >> directory of the Gnome Foundation gave a talk on 'Stealing the
> >> Desktop' and how the cloud is becoming the platform, and that it lacks
> >> the 'freedom' that we take for granted with our Linux installations.
> >> Phil Robb, the HP's Open Source & Linux group's Engineering Manager
> >> gave a presentation on the 'Irrelevance of the Desktop' So I certainly
> >> think you aren't alone in your observations.
> >>
> >> So your proposal talks about what the end goal is (ASF-like
> >> organization that fosters cloud and other groups and helps provide the
> >> tools around it) what steps in the next 6 months to a year would put
> >> us on the path to achieving that?
> >>
> >
> > Step one is buy in from the board
> > Step two is finding partnership with other groups.  The mozilla foundation
> > for example.
> > Step three is finding someone or creating a small group to oversee the
> > new development.  Much like FESCo does with the OS today.
> >
> > Those are the "next 6 month" goals I'd put forth.
> >
> I'm curios what you actually expect Fedora to do here.  By and large
> Fedora is a group of people who take upstream work and manipulate it
> into packages for our distribution.  Only a small minority do any of the
> upstream work itself, and even then that is directed by upstream
> projects, not by Fedora.
> So I'm curious, what is it you want us to do?  How can our community of
> packagers.. er.. package the web?

I'm proposing we do a multi-year shift from being a community of packagers
to a community of developers.  That way, at least, we control our own
destiny.  As it is now, upstream does where upstream is.. well upstream.


More information about the advisory-board mailing list