Introducing SILO to the Fedora Board

[Dave Riches]

On 06/02/2011 03:02 AM, Matt Clark wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the luck.  We'll definitely need it, I don't see any of 
> what I'm talking about to be easy. :)
>
> On officiality, I also think an official relationship (I'm not sure 
> what that means, but I took it as 'affiliation') with the Fedora 
> project would be wise either given that we need to remain neutral if 
> the intended service provided is mediation.  If we're under obligation 
> to Fedora it will do exactly what you suggested:  It would be adding 
> another layer and complicating things.
>
> However, a friendly joint effort wouldn't.  Basically we just need to 
> figure out how we can administrate our respective corners of the 
> internet in a way that creates a little stable harmony with each 
> other.  We'd like to see some penalty policies for operators and 
> admins, etc, be able to provide support to users that otherwise 
> wouldn't be getting that support from #fedora (we're trying it out 
> with just IRC right now), and a good way to collect reports of abuse 
> and to provide those reports meaningfully to you guys through 
> effective channels.
You keep beating the "operator abuse" drum, but I am still at a loss as 
to any evidence of unresolved operator abuse. Perhaps the context of 
this discussion should be moved away from your personal experiences and 
be based on *actual* evidence of operator abuse? Or just leave it alone?
>
> From my perspective I think very few changes in programs or policies 
> would be needed to make that happen, this would probably be mostly an 
> unofficial loose agreement and seeing where it goes.
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin at scrye.com 
> <mailto:kevin at scrye.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Matt.
>
>     First let me wish you luck with your group. More good support
>     resources
>     are always a good thing.
>
>     That said, I'm not sure any kind of official relationship would be of
>     benefit. Another layer of mediation that is outside the project
>     seems to
>     be like it would just be adding in another layer and complicating
>     things. Perhaps we could work to improve the processes in place
>     already
>     in the irc-support-sig instead of trying to integrate a possible non
>     neutral third party into the process.
>
>     I look forward to hearing your (and anyone elses) ideas.
>
>     (The irc-support-sig meets on thrsdays at 17UTC in #fedora-meeting).
>
>     kevin
>
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