Looking for feedback on Fedora COC Enforcement Draft

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 03/02/2011 07:24 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
> On 03/02/2011 02:11 PM, Richard Fontana wrote:
>> AFAICT the purpose of requiring signatures, or the equivalent
>> (clicking buttons, etc.) is to make it possible to sue people. You
>> don't seriously want to, or think you will be able to, sue people who
>> violate the Code of Conduct, right?
> I don't necessarily agree with this assessment. Certainly, from the
> perspective of the ICLA/FPCA, it is a legal agreement between two
> parties (Fedora and the contributor), which is why we require
> click-through agreement, but the intent is not to make it possible to
> sue people,

But with this agreement Red Hat is now capable of doing so but could not 
do so before?

>   but to be able to have a record from contributors as to
> their agreement to the ICLA/FPCA terms and for there to be a conscious
> understanding on the part of the contributor that the terms of the
> ICLA/FPCA apply to them.

Is it possible to get some clarification and more information about the 
ICLA/FPCA in human language ( dont speak legaieaze )

What prompted for this change?

What happens to those that already have agreed to the CLA?

What happens to community members that are not willing to agree to 
ICLA/FPCA or refuses to take up a new legal agreement?

> The Code of Conduct is not a legal document, but I do think there is
> value in establishing a conscious understanding on the part of the
> contributor that there is an expectation that they must either follow
> the COC or face the consequences (which include, but are not limited to,
> removal from the Fedora Community).

Could you clarify a bit what other action can be taken?

> I think that this can be accomplished without requiring contributors
> click an "I agree" to the COC (and without tracking agreement to the
> COC). I see the COC as more of a set of Bar Rules, posted on the wall in
> a conspicuous place next to the Bartender.
>
> The fact that all of our contributors will be required to login to FAS
> to agree to the FPCA in the near future presents a unique opportunity
> for each one to also see the new Bar Rules at the same time. Perhaps
> something like:
>
> "In addition to the new FPCA terms, Fedora now has a formal Code of
> Conduct. A copy of this CoC is available here: https://foo.bar/baz
> Please keep in mind that all Fedora Community members are expected to
> follow the Code of Conduct."
>

Sounds reasonable.

JBG