Tying threads together.

Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
Sun Feb 19 18:44:21 UTC 2012


On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:35:33 -0700
Robyn Bergeron <rbergero at redhat.com> wrote:

> Even experienced contributors that use the wiki search sometimes want
> to chew off their hands and cry. :) (I know myself that I usually
> prefer using google to search for things on the wiki rather than
> using the wiki search.)
> 
> I don't know about necessarily "splitting" it into two wikis - I
> think there is just a ton of information that winds up affecting both
> groups. One of the great things about the wiki is that it's probably
> one of the easiest ways for for an end user to begin to contribute
> -- essentially helping them to cross over the mental barrier of
> learning that they can contribute in ways that are not just "writing
> code," that they can truly participate, etc. -- and my worry would be
> that we start to create walled gardens, or isolate one group from
> another. Perhaps I'm just paranoid though. :)
> 
> Perhaps there's a way to optimize the wiki search - by selecting "for 
> contributors" or "for end users" - etc. I would think that a lot of
> what end users want to see is pointed to from the front wiki page --
> which makes me wonder if we really have a lot of end users searching
> the wiki, or if they're just landing on wiki pages via google
> searches, etc.
> 
> Do we have a way to see what people have been looking for in the
> wiki? Or is that all privacy-ish? (And thus - going and seeing if
> what they're hitting is remotely relevant, up to date, etc.?) How do
> people wind up landing on pages that they land on?

I'll interject here and note that we are working on a search engine
solution in Fedora Infrastructure. We have settled on dataparksearch as
the engine. Hopefully we will have a test instance up before too long
and can start testing it and see if it meets our needs. 

Pretty much anything is going to be better than the mediawiki default
search, so I think it will be a win. (Also, indexing things like docs,
pkgdb, fedorahosted, etc in addition to the wiki I hope will be a big
win). 

kevin
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