To be or not to be, the question of Future Fedora Release Names

[mario juliano grande balletta]

Idem John!  completely agree!

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM, inode0 <inode0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today the Board decided that the Fedora 18 release naming process was
>> already in progress and therefore we would continue to work with the current
>> process for naming Fedora 18.  However, we could change things for Fedora 19
>> and above.  The question was how.
>>
>> Several of the Board members felt that the release names were valuable, at
>> least one expressed the opinion that the current method of choosing release
>> names was fun and one expressed synmpathy with getting rid of the release
>> names.  All pretty much agreed that they wanted to know whether there was
>> an overwhelming feeling that release names should go, should not go, or
>> just that the current system was broken.
>>
>> What we'd like to do is have a poll that runs at the same time as the
>> Fedora 18 Release Name voting to determine whether to continue to have
>> release names for Fedora 19+.  The poll will be in the voting system and
>> have three choices:
>>
>> * Get rid of release names
>> * Keep release names with the present process
>> * Keep release names but have the Board and community create new
>>  criteria/process for choosing them
>
> Sadly this doesn't give someone like me a very good way to express his
> opinion on the matter. I don't much care whether the naming process
> stays the same or changes, but I would like to not prevent the
> hundreds of contributors who have fun participating in this process
> from continuing to do so. I'm fine with those doing the work and those
> participating in the process deciding such details rather than a
> collection of the uninvolved (e.g., people like me voting randomly
> between options that don't allow me to express my opinion clearly)
> deciding for them.
>
>> The Board will use the results of this to decide whether to have a new
>> release name for Fedora 19 and if so, whether the process will use the
>> current criteria or we'll create a new one (for instance, mizmo's gathering
>> of ideas for themes for release names).
>>
>> Two notes that the Board wanted to be clear about this proposal:
>>
>> 1) If the Board chooses to create a new process that will likely happen with
>>   the people who are doing the work to revamp the process rather than be
>>   put to another vote.
>
> Makes sense, those doing the work figure out the details.
>
>> 2) The Board wanted to make clear that this is a poll, not a binding vote
>>   An overwhelming vote will likely influence the Board to go along with
>>   a certain plan much more than a close vote where the Board members will
>>   feel that there isn't a single definite path being sought for by the
>>   community.
>
> Doesn't make so much sense. Likely by far the most common vote will be
> apathy just like in every election we have with, well, almost everyone
> abstaining. And I'm going to guess that most of the people who will
> vote to do away with naming don't actually have to do any additional
> work whether we have naming or not and in my opinion don't have
> standing to make the decision about what other people choose to do.
> Maybe some of them feel compelled to vote to prevent names they find
> offensive and I suppose that counts as work.
>
> I'll find a way to vote for fun though and to support those doing the
> work also doing the deciding.
>
> John
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