[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Be a critique

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org
Tue Feb 21 16:51:59 UTC 2006


Hi

>
> Try out system-config-control in Fedora Extras.
>
>
> - PEOPLE need the things solve. People will have the time to discover 
> the imrpovements if we make more easy the startup...

I am unable to understand that. Someone will have to translate it for me.

>
> Centralized! Centralized!. Just like Mandriva!!! Just like SuSE! Its 
> not an style concern, its a user aceptance business.

Again look at system-config-control and suggest specific improvements in 
bugzilla

>
> You will have to file bugs if you find anything bad. That would be a 
> good way to provide feedback to the developers on improving it
>
> - Not talking about bugs, talking about non intuitive manner to 
> configure network!

If it is non intuitive, thats a bug. File it, report it, discuss it with 
the developers.

>
> - SuSE and Mandriva are ¨sons¨of Red Hat.

Thats a common myth. While Mandriva long ago was derived from Red Hat 
Linux. SUSE is not and they are pretty much independent organizations 
with their own policies at work now.

>> no integrated GUI Firewall (firestarter could be an option) 
>
>
> -we have a missundertood here. I pacth myself my own fedora and my 
> customers machines. I am talking about usability for external users.
> for official releases. Still i am working with goverment here and we 
> are making a Real Fedora Desktop and Server with all this tools, because
> the official path doesnt have the intention to improve this. Integrate 
> means in this critic, INTEGRATE FOR EVERYONE. (think about people...)

It is available for everyone by default  from Fedora Core 5.

> - You know that it is possible to put one fully functional Linux in 
> one CD. Dont kid me please :-)

Definitely but we cannot provide all the functionality we provide in 4 
or 5 CD's in a single CD.  We dont to provide more choice and expand the 
software packages in Fedora while letting end users pick and choose any 
of those CD's to install software they want. 

>
>
> Bluecurve has not been the default theme for Gnome since Fedora Core 
> 3. Both KDE and GNOME is provided within Fedora Core and other desktop 
> environments within Fedora Extras.
>
> - Think about people....dont think about you....

Dont understand this again.

> What is non intuitive about http://fedoraproject.org/wiki?
>
>
> - Think about a newcommer to Open Source and Fedora. Think about a 
> newcommer to Wiki technologies. Think about people. Moin Moin is for 
> Developers and Power Users to Developers and power users. If you have 
> policies to spread Fedora, a CMS with simple and direct information, 
> will be more simple to get Open Source ideas and resources. Make 
> simple to people. (Think about newcommer).

It is pretty simple to use.  Pretty much all of the links and content is 
available from the front page in about 2 or 3 clicks. If you suggest 
specific changes or better yet contribute, we can help improve it.

> This is work in progress. Refer to 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/CMS and 
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-January/msg00091.html 
>
>
> - I offer my help, but nobody answer my mails...:-8

I havent seen your mails. Post again maybe.

> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books and 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations. Ambassadors are largely 
> enthusiastic and self motivated people. We depend on ambassadors to 
> motivate others and get them interested and involved with Fedora.
>
> - I read it. Too much complex, not good indexing. In spite of this 
> next march when fedora core argentina site will be available i will 
> show what i am talking about.

Doing is better than talking most of the time I guess.

-- 
Rahul 

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