[Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ...

[Francesco Ugolini]

I think that isn't a Fedora problem, is a Media problem. In fact,
reading tech site or magazine i find dozen and dozen of page dedicated
to Ubuntu and other distribution. In my country there are 5 or 6
magazine about linux and the last month i saw that in 4 of those there
was an Ubuntu disc: that's marketing, not Open Source.

So, i think that we have to use a different approach that can be
considered more simple but more efficent: talking directly with
people. This will be our strenght and only if we continue to work
hardly our goals and our System will be know.

Thanks

Francesco

On 9/17/06, Michael J. Knox <michael at knox.net.nz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some ideas at why Fedora might be loosing favor with users.
>
> * Note this is my opinion on what I see in my local LUGs *
>
> New Zealand is, generally speaking, very much a debian/ubuntu user base.
>
> >From what I can see there are at least 3 main reasons.
>
> 1) Stability. People are often recommending or relating their experience,
> with debian (proper) for things like servers or workstations. I, for one,
> can agree. debian sarge has proven to be very stable for at least one
> server installation I admin.
>
> Not much can be done here, since Fedora aims to be leading edge.
>
> 2) Apt. For some reason or another, people can not see that ap-get install
> foo, smart install foo and yum install foo are all pretty much the same.
> "apt-get" it is one of the first things I hear when I ask "Why
> debian/Ubuntu?"
>
> Perhaps some effort could be made to provide education, both technical and
> user interaction, comparisons in an unbias fashion on these different
> package dependency tools. It should be an honest and be fair.
>
> 3) non-free. Yes, I know this is very much a double edge sword for Fedora.
> However, the fact remains, Joe user wants his MP3, DVD, Flash, Java etc.
> Yes, I know Fedora has been doing some very impressive work on gcj and
> gnash etc.. but when the FOSS alternatives are not up to scratch, people
> are left out to dry.
>
> IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal
> packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a
> new user...  Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be
> considered a cardinal sin. Heck, Fedora pushing xorg 7.1 was halted as to
> not break Nvida and Ati driver users! Talk about mixed messages.
>
> Fedora does not need to compromise its values in order to help users.
> Fedora should consider helping users instead of restricting.
>
> * Note this is my opinion on what I see in my local LUGs *
>
> I am a firm believer in FOSS and only use FOSS where ever I can. I do have
> to use closed source, non-free software, but I am at least technically
> inclined to install this myself ;-)
>
> Michael
>
>
> Gerold Kassube wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as you all can see and read in
> > http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html we are ranged behind
> > all other ...
> >
> > What should / can / must we do, to get more acceptance on the user-side?
> > Do we need a strengh marketing concept?
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Gerold Kassube
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