[Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings

[David Nielsen]

fre, 26 10 2007 kl. 00:49 +0200, skrev Fabian Affolter:
> Hi all,
> 
> It's a long time ago...exactly during the presentation during the FAD at
> Berlin I showed a slide (Page 7) [1].  This slide contains an overview
> of some weekly meetings.  After a short discussion about why are there
> always a lot of European ambassadors at both time (FYI 22:00 UTC is
> midnight in western europe).  Someone suggested to split the meetings.
> An European meeting at a pleasant moment...but now we can't split due to
> lack of attendance.
> 
> Since LinuxTag there were 18 meetings. 14 were canceled!
> 
> Do we still need weekly meetings?  Is it an overkill?  Is it just a
> waste of time?  Today for me it was just wasting time.  Three people
> showed up.
> 
> Are the reasons...
> 
> - I don't care what the other ambassadors do.
> - We have nothing to discuss.  I don't know what to tell.
> - South America is far away, I'm not interested in stuff from there.
> - I have other stuff to do and can't take 30 min off.
> - I live in the wrong time zone.
> 
> I guess that there is no more any need for exchanging information
> between the ambassadors about events and how stuff can be done because
> everybody have enough experience to handle it.
> 
> On the Join page [2] of the Ambassadors Project...
> 
> Step 1.  Participate in weekly meetings
> 
> Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove that step.  No meeting, no
> possibility for a participation...FAMSco, this could be a topic for your
> next meeting. For your half-yearly meeting ;-)

It might be more apt to just call for a meeting when we really need one
instead of having one each week just for the sake of it, but being a
global project IRC meetings will always be at the wrong time for someone
- e.g. today was midnight for me and I was sleeping, even attending at
such an hour is stetchy at best (never mind that I woke up at 2am).

I say we aim towards a model that leverages the mailing list more, it's
not like we can't have an intelligent debate this way and it would allow
everyone to voice his/her opinion without interferring with mere human
things like sleep, food or work.

So +1 for removing the step from here.

Regardless I think the low attentence is mainly down to the fact that in
most parts of the world regardless of how you plan it, it's simply going
to be time that is unavailable to most people to being IRCing. Besides
what can we do in such a meeting that cannot be resolved by a nice mail
thread? So I doubt it's a lack of caring.

- David Nielsen
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