R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings

[francescougolini at aol.it]

Nobody was trow out: we had a discussion and people said clearly they 
disagree completely with this proposal.

So i think it couldn't really help the project trying to speculate 
using obsolete arguments: we have just to do what you want (freely) to 
do.

Yes, yo may disagree with my idea, but i'm not an imperor (i'm an 
ambassador like you), i've just prosed some (costructive) discussions 
and, as you have seen, a lot of people join those ones and take their 
position (and they won).

Another point. We don't want to make comparison between ambassadors, 
countries etc...: this isn't the right place and we know each person 
has different possibilities.

So, I hope you will think about those words.

We haven't fire anybody, we don't want to give a prize for the most 
active ambassadors' Country but we want people who are not angried, 
unsatisfied or just disappointed.

Best regards

Francesco Ugolini


-----Messaggio originario-----
Da: Robert 'Bob' Jensen <marketing-list at fedoralinks.org>
A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
Inviati: Lun 29 Ott 2007 18:25
Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings






Fabian Affolter wrote: 

> Hi all, 

>
> It's a long time ago...exactly during the presentation during the FAD 
at 

> Berlin I showed a slide (Page 7) [1].  This slide contains an 
overview 

> of some weekly meetings.  After a short discussion about why are 
there 

> always a lot of European ambassadors at both time (FYI 22:00 UTC is 

> midnight in western europe).  Someone suggested to split the 
meetings. 

> An European meeting at a pleasant moment...but now we can't split due 
to 

> lack of attendance. 

>
> Since LinuxTag there were 18 meetings. 14 were canceled! 

>
> Do we still need weekly meetings?  Is it an overkill?  Is it just a 

> waste of time?  Today for me it was just wasting time.  Three people 

> showed up. 

>
> Are the reasons... 

>
> - I don't care what the other ambassadors do. 

> - We have nothing to discuss.  I don't know what to tell. 

> - South America is far away, I'm not interested in stuff from there. 

> - I have other stuff to do and can't take 30 min off. 

> - I live in the wrong time zone. 

>
> I guess that there is no more any need for exchanging information 

> between the ambassadors about events and how stuff can be done 
because 

> everybody have enough experience to handle it. 

>
> On the Join page [2] of the Ambassadors Project... 

>
> Step 1.  Participate in weekly meetings 

>
> Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove that step.  No meeting, no 

> possibility for a participation...FAMSco, this could be a topic for 
your 

> next meeting. For your half-yearly meeting ;-) 

>
> Just my thoughts... 

>
> Regards, 

>
> Fabian 

>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007 

> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join 

>
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Personally I quit giving a crap about the ambassadors project and
meetings when there was talk about throwing people out, creating a good
ole boys club.  As it appears this happened anyhow, only people were 
not
thrown out they were just alienated.  There are no events in my area of
the US and quite honestly I do not have the resources to create one or
travel more than an hour by car to get to one.  The heavy activity of
European Ambassadors does not help many of us in the US and perhaps
other parts of the world because of cultural differences.  It seams 
that
the EU Ambassadors have no trouble traveling and taking time off of 
work
to do something for the project, I on the other hand have a family to
feed and a business to take care of. 
 

Robert 'Bob' Jensen 
 

 

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