[Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings
Claus Reheis
polytropolis at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 17:52:57 UTC 2007
Thanks for the quick answer!
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 13:20 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote:
> Actually only Fedora has its Ambassadoring project, yeah, the other
> ones use to roganize events etc... without having a specific project.
>
>
>
> As i know the following project use those systems:
>
>
> - Ubuntu: there is an internet form where everybody can ask for CDs
> (for events more than 1)
>
>
> - Gnome: there is (only for Gnome contributors) a box that you can
> request for a specific event and then give them back.
>
>
> Generally people send email to pojects' leaders, local contributors
> etc...
>
>
> This is what I know about the other project, probably someone in the
> list will know more solutions.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Francesco Ugolini
There must be a way beside IRC and Mailing-lists where people can
contribute their ideas and questions independent from time and location!
In my opinion a forum style board would be something to think about!
There I can just log in, look whats going on, see what is needed and
contribute when I have time to do it!
Claus
>
>
> -----Messaggio originario-----
> Da: Claus Reheis <polytropolis at gmail.com>
> A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> Inviati: Mar 30 Ott 2007 18:03
> Oggetto: Re: R: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings
>
> Hi!
>
> Are there similar projects like the Fedora Ambassadors in other
> distributions? (OpenSuse, Ubuntu...)
> How do they handle the communication?
> Maybe we should take a look how things are done there!
>
> Greetings,
> Claus
>
> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 11:46 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote:
> > First of all i never proposed to fire people (i hope someone has
> > understood this thing) and it wouldn't a proposal but a topic to start
> > a serious discussion over the future of the project. I don't know
> > where you have read the word "fire", "trown out" etc.... but as you
> > know i want to help people not to create problems and frustrations or
> > to force people doing something: I never thought to remove people
> > from the project.
> >
> >
> > And, please, stop this past (closed) discussion (see the Thomas
> > Chung's Message to M-L for more information).
> I am happy to do so!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the IRC weekly meetings are one of the place you can
> > communicate with Ambassadors, but there are a lot of other tools like
> > M-L and Ambassadors' EMAIL (in many ambassadors' wikis).
> >
> >
> > As happened for the last Italian Linux Day many contributors, that
> > weren't ambassadors, ask me for CDs. DVDs and similar stuffs, and
> > personally i've tried to complete all the request.
> >
> >
> > I f you need help you may contact one of you country's ambassador
> > asking him to help you not only asking him materials but what you
> > want. At the end we are here to do those things.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hoping i've answered (completely) to your questions and staying
> > avaiable for any other ones
> >
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Messaggio originario-----
> > Da: Claus Reheis <polytropolis at gmail.com>
> > A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > Inviati: Mar 30 Ott 2007 14:21
> > Oggetto: Re: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings
> >
> > Dear Francesco Ugolini!
> >
> > In the year 2006 was a small Linux Day in Tirol/Austria!
> > Because I am am big fan of the Fedora distribution and the lack of
> > any Fedora presence on that event, I thought about doing some
> > advertisement for the Fedora Project!
> > There was no way to get some nice Fedora stuff, without joining the
> > Fedora Ambassador Project!
> > So I did that and I do not regret it.
> >
> >
> > But the meetings are at times, very hard for me to attend!
> > I work in a hotel and at (14:00 UTC) 16:00 I have to work all the time.
> > Sure I have a day off, but that day changes every season.
> > The meetings at (22:00 UTC) 0:00 are very late, especially when you have
> > to get up early...
> >
> > I am sure there are also other people in my situation!
> > We have our lives, our obligations, our work and our families!
> > So why do we not think about a way to communicate where people can
> > attend when and if they want?
> > A Ambassador forum where we communicate via threads independent from
> > time,location and situation!
> >
> > If there are IRC meetings every month, and the meetings are hold on
> > times I can attend, I will attend.
> >
> > And your proposal in the past to fire people from the Ambassador
> > project, is imho just unconscionable.
> >
> > There are people like me, not involved in IT, wo have to work for their
> > life, their family, attend their friends and little rest of the time
> > to their hobbies!Maybe one of this hobby is Linux/Fedora.
> > So if they advertise Fedora to everyone who is interested in Linux,
> > talk about it and even go to local events and represent the Fedora
> > Project, imho that is enought to be an ambassador!
> >
> > I am one of this kind and if you wish to fire someone, start with me.
> >
> > Claus Reheis
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 06:09 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote:
> > > Nobody was trow out: we had a discussion and people said clearly they
> > > disagree completely with this proposal.
> > >
> > > So i think it couldn't really help the project trying to speculate
> > > using obsolete arguments: we have just to do what you want (freely) to
> > > do.
> > >
> > > Yes, yo may disagree with my idea, but i'm not an imperor (i'm an
> > > ambassador like you), i've just prosed some (costructive) discussions
> > > and, as you have seen, a lot of people join those ones and take their
> > > position (and they won).
> > >
> > > Another point. We don't want to make comparison between ambassadors,
> > > countries etc...: this isn't the right place and we know each person
> > > has different possibilities.
> > >
> > > So, I hope you will think about those words.
> > >
> > > We haven't fire anybody, we don't want to give a prize for the most
> > > active ambassadors' Country but we want people who are not angried,
> > > unsatisfied or just disappointed.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Francesco Ugolini
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Messaggio originario-----
> > > Da: Robert 'Bob' Jensen <marketing-list at fedoralinks.org>
> > > A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > > Inviati: Lun 29 Ott 2007 18:25
> > > Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Fabian Affolter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It's a long time ago...exactly during the presentation during the FAD
> > > at
> > >
> > > > Berlin I showed a slide (Page 7) [1]. This slide contains an
> > > overview
> > >
> > > > of some weekly meetings. After a short discussion about why are
> > > there
> > >
> > > > always a lot of European ambassadors at both time (FYI 22:00 UTC is
> > >
> > > > midnight in western europe). Someone suggested to split the
> > > meetings.
> > >
> > > > An European meeting at a pleasant moment...but now we can't split due
> > > to
> > >
> > > > lack of attendance.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Since LinuxTag there were 18 meetings. 14 were canceled!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Do we still need weekly meetings? Is it an overkill? Is it just a
> > >
> > > > waste of time? Today for me it was just wasting time. Three people
> > >
> > > > showed up.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Are the reasons...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - I don't care what the other ambassadors do.
> > >
> > > > - We have nothing to discuss. I don't know what to tell.
> > >
> > > > - South America is far away, I'm not interested in stuff from there.
> > >
> > > > - I have other stuff to do and can't take 30 min off.
> > >
> > > > - I live in the wrong time zone.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess that there is no more any need for exchanging information
> > >
> > > > between the ambassadors about events and how stuff can be done
> > > because
> > >
> > > > everybody have enough experience to handle it.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On the Join page [2] of the Ambassadors Project...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Step 1. Participate in weekly meetings
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove that step. No meeting, no
> > >
> > > > possibility for a participation...FAMSco, this could be a topic for
> > > your
> > >
> > > > next meeting. For your half-yearly meeting ;-)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Fabian
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007
> > >
> > > > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join
> > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Personally I quit giving a crap about the ambassadors project and
> > > meetings when there was talk about throwing people out, creating a good
> > > ole boys club. As it appears this happened anyhow, only people were
> > > not
> > > thrown out they were just alienated. There are no events in my area of
> > > the US and quite honestly I do not have the resources to create one or
> > > travel more than an hour by car to get to one. The heavy activity of
> > > European Ambassadors does not help many of us in the US and perhaps
> > > other parts of the world because of cultural differences. It seams
> > > that
> > > the EU Ambassadors have no trouble traveling and taking time off of
> > > work
> > > to do something for the project, I on the other hand have a family to
> > > feed and a business to take care of.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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