[Ambassadors] Fedora media requests

[David Nalley]

IIRC, the reimbursement model was set up due to the high costs of
international shipping. Shipping costs for tshirts and CDs often outstripped
the cost of the goods themselves. Not to mention possible delays getting
things across the various borders.

However, Clint is in the US and cost to ship things within the US is
relatively inexpensive, and as he indicates it is more costly for him to
have 500 discs burned or pressed than it is to ship him 500 CDs that are
already pressed. This is particularly the case given that RH is getting
discs pressed to begin with - so they've already done the work.

Clint - as an aside - since the 'get stuff' page has been inactive, I've
listed my event and contacted Thomas or Max - they've been great about
filling requests, sometimes even on short notice. I perceive that the
unwritten rule is that in the US people like Max act with the same
responsibilities as Rodrigo Padula, the new LATAM Ambassador Coordinator
when it comes to handing out swag and CDs.

I know that there are significant differences between RH and Canonical, but
the reality is that Ambassadors are known, most like Clint have been around
for a while. There certainly shouldn't be more hoops to jump through to get
swag or media than what a LoCo leader would have to go through with
Canonical - shipping challenges aside. With RH EMEA, the LATAM Coordinator
(who would ostensibly receiving funding to burn or press discs locally), and
RH in NA (I admit ignorance of how APAC would be handled) I can't imagine
that it would ever come out better for RH or the Ambassador to press or burn
discs on their own unless it was for a really large event like LinuxTag or
FOSDEM.




On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Clint Savage <herlo1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Francesco Ugolini
> <fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > 2008/7/3 Clint Savage <herlo1 at gmail.com>:
> >> I've noticed that the media request site is offline and wondered if it
> >> is going to be brought back online so I can order a bunch for events I
> >> do all year long.
> >>
> >> The link that is pointed to from the wiki
> >> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff) is this one:
> >>
> >> http://fedoranews.org/form/Ambassadors.html
> >>
> >> Is that one correct?  If not, what is the correct one?
> >>
> >> I'm also aware of the Fedora Media Project and am involved in burning
> >> CDs/DVDs for that, but I'd like to give away pressed media for many
> >> reasons.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Clint
> >>
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> >>
> >
> > This is the correct link.
> >
> > If you need CD/DVDs you could add the event (where the CD/DVDs are
> > needed) in the Fedora Event List
> > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) and you could get a
> > reimbursement (ask FAmSCo before start burn) for CD/DVD burning (see
> > the posting event deadline before).
> >
> > As a message in GetStuff page say we are in the way to localize CD/DVD
> > production, so what i tryed to explain is the best way to get material
> > (until now).
> >
> > Hope I'll answer your question.
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
>
> Francesco,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond.  I see the logistics
> announcement from back in January, and it seems to me that its been a
> long time since an update has been made there.  I figured if nothing
> else, we could kickstart the conversation again and resolve the
> logistics issue.
>
> I have an event already on FedoraEvents page, the Utah Open Source
> Conference, which I expect I will receive a bunch of Fedora SWAG to
> give away as well as LiveCDs, etc.  What I got from you was that I
> should have them pressed myself and get a reimbursement.  While that's
> an option, I don't need very many and its not for any specific event.
> I train Linux for a living, LUG meetings and others that just come
> about because I talk so much about Fedora.  I should also point out
> that costs for the FedoraProject to make several thousand at once is
> going to be cheaper than me making 100 at a time.
>
> One of the things I think about a lot is the Ubuntu ShipIt program.
> Any Loco/LUG leader can order Ubuntu CDs and have them shipped to
> their house.  Now while I know the costs of that process are high to
> Canonical, Fedora could do this same thing with Ambassadors on a much
> smaller scale.  The costs for something like that might be worth the
> effort.  I see that if Fedora wants to market itself more and get more
> contributors, it needs more exposure.  Providing something as simple
> as LiveCDs (in i686 and x86_64) regularly to ambassadors could easily
> stretch that exposure through a more viral approach.
>
> Anyway, those are my thoughts and arguments as to why we should reopen
> that form (or go with a similar solution).  I look forward to
> continuing this discussion and doing more with Fedora.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Clint
>
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