[Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list

[Brian Powell]

2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:55 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
>> > I have a question for FAMSCo:  Can someone who is a well-known and
>> > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without
>> > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties?
>>
>> Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is
>> to be in the Ambassadors Account System group.
>>
>> I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with
>> those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over
>> this proposal.
>>
>> 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question:
>> why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors
>> list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of
>> Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The
>> natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it
>> closed.
>>
>> 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining
>> the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them
>> out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the
>> list only to Account System members.
>> But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L
>> administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working
>> hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group
>> etc..
>>
>> 3. Personally I don't know how simple could be check all the requests,
>> meanwhile we are work with new Ambassadors (a requirement to be an
>> Ambassadors is write a message about themselves on the List: with this
>> opening, would it be useful?).
>>
>> A lot of time we discussed about this opportunity both here, and
>> during the past FAmSCo, there too.
>>
>> FAmSCo, meanwhile, will discuss about the possibility and will try to
>> focus on the problems and the benefits from this proposal.
>>
>> Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an
>> Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people
>> work, giving them resources etc.
>>
>> Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new
>> Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to
>> join the Project.
>>
>> Hope to be more detailed soon
>
> I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the
> list completely.  This accomplishes several things:
>
> * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg
> * Increases cross-project collaboration
> * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved
>
> Some additional recommendations that came from other people to me in
> private email:
>
> * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed.
>
> * Add more moderators so that Joerg doesn't have to carry the whole
> load.  There are others listed, but they are apparently inactive.
> Having more moderators is not usually harmful.
>
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+1 to opening the list. I think we could benefit from having others
join in on discussions as well as possibly help out.

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BrianPowell
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